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[ESPN Daily Dime Poll] Best center - Yao or Dwight?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Splash, Dec 17, 2008.

  1. killer instinct

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    Wilt Chamberlain was better than them all and HE DID NOT PLAY FOR THE ROCKETS or the MAGIC
    therefore WILTS TEAMS WERE BETTER THAN ANY OF OURS.

    Do the analysis..... its the TRUTH and this argument is like comparing Derrick Chevious to Roderick Rhodes, it doesn't matter.

    I WILL SAY THIS...... ORLANDO is a better town and Florida is a better state than TEXAS.
     
  2. ReD_1

    ReD_1 Rookie

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    This is because Dwight is athletic and can dunk and fly and all that stuff.

    Nobody wonders why he does never make his team mates better?

    Why he has absolutely zero post moves excluding monster dunks?

    Where's FT percentage?

    He is good on D end, and I give him serious props and admire his work but guy has some work to do to catch up with Yao.

    Yao had some bad luck, with injuries and people quickly jump on other bandwagons.
     
  3. ReD_1

    ReD_1 Rookie

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    Just one question?

    Have you ever watched Chamberlain play?

    I thought so.


    Sorry because double post.
     
  4. bullardfan

    bullardfan なんでやねん

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    who cares what ESPN says? we all know Yao is better. We have Yao and would rather have Yao. It's kinda like asking Olajuwon or Shaq. It's close as far as dominance but I'd still take Olajuwon anyday.
     
  5. krosfyah

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    Your opinion is noted.

    However, the city of Houston alone is bigger than the top 6 counties combined if you exclude Miami-Dade county. Harris county is twice the size of Miami-Dade county. So there are a lot of people here that disagree with you.

    Of the top 5 populated cities in the country, only Houston saw double digit growth. So people are still moving here dispite your opinion.

    Not that Houston is the greatest city on earth ...but people love to senselessly bash it with often wrong data. So just gotta stick up my HTown cause nobody else seems to. ;)
     
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    I think that's what people are missing. Smash the scrubs or the old guys and play up to par with the elite. Shaq killed old dream to the point it was like foreman v ali. In the 95 finals, shaq played dream to a draw, but dream killed robinson that yr and ewing the yr before. That why after 95 everyone called shaq 2nd best. After 97, shaq was the best until the last yr or so. There are guys who shouldn't cancel yao out but do. That's why some of our games are closer than they should. Darko, petro and dudes like that should be in foul trouble or just getting killed. When howard plays most of those guys, its a no contest.
     
  7. mozart123

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    If its an opinion poll, all you have to do is get the Chinese fans involved because honestly if Americans think (and I'm guessing those who vote on ESPN are Americans) that dwight is the best center, then I can guarantee anyone who gives a damn about Basketball in China 99% of then think Yao is better, hence Yao wins out. Now to somehow measure this will be difficult, but the number that we need is what percentage of chinese care about basketball and what percentage of americans care about basketball, and when we find that out we will see who is really more popular.

    Lets face it the general fan only sees Dunks and the dunk contest and the "highlights". Yao is just as boring if not more as Tim Duncan to the average fan. Last night Yao scored 32, and I don't think the average fan remembered that about him but rather than Dunk by Nene over him. The only thing Yao can do to overcome his perception in the American media is to win a championship and that is what Duncan did.
     
  8. mipolanc

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    WOw!!!! *80-20 percentage that Dwight is better! NAw its about 60-40 or 55-45!! But truthfully as a NBA fan and leave my Rocket fan biasis aside the better center is DWIGHT!! Look at the averages and the defensive side of the ball and tells you the answer. This is the sasme talk of Shaq being better that Hakeem and that comparison is a joke!! Hakeem is the best center of all time to me, but look at the comparison Shaq is fierce and straight to the basket and Hakeem is finess and has moves like guard and Blocks everything( DEFENSE!!!!!!!!). Yao is 7"5 and is sorry on defense for his size he no where of being agressive and that my be a culture thing. At 7"5 he should be mashing on everyone by the goal!!! HE IS NOT AGRESSIVE ENOUGH!!! Dwight is agressive by the goal and he demands the ball almost every time down the court on offense. YAo just goes with the flow of the game he is passive maybe cause Tracy is there. THink Rocket fans when we Clyde and Dream, Clyde gave the ball to Hakeem because the offense ran through Dream, and that is not the case with Yao and Tracy. Ultimately Dwight is the best center! Numbers and facts don't lie!!! D HOWARD is a beast and Yao is soft like Charmin (toliet paper)) he needs to grow some!!!!
     
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    You may right about DW's Rebound, but if you put yao on orlando, yao will not get 15 rebound whatsoever, what i try to said is yao maybe is better offense skill than DW at this point, beside that, none! and if you look at DW's age and game, his offense skill is improving, so it is normal people put DW over yao.
     
  10. ace_ram

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    I would take someone who can shoot better at free throws than someone who wears a cape! :D
     
  11. MD_in_Training

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    That's hardly my point. I understand that Dwight is a better rebounder than Yao is, but his stats are nonetheless inflated. Yao may not get 15 rebounds a game in Orlando, but Dwight certainly won't get 15 rebounds in Houston. And honestly, without his ridiculously gawdy rebounding numbers, Dwight seems more Clark Kent than Superman.
    How much of a difference is 21/11 and 21/15? The former will get you into the All-Star game, but the latter will make ESPN worshippers explode in their pants on a regular basis.
     
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    Its not about exploding in your pants. 21/14/4 vs 19/9/1.7 is a big difference no matter how you look at it.
     
  13. MD_in_Training

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    Um, that's not my point. In fact, my point doesn't even involve Yao.

    Do you go into every thread about Yao, and try to distort every neutral point to somehow reflect unfavorably on him?
     
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    md- Actually I read every thread and if something doesn't equate, I try to see how it can be made good.

    Like, I think Yao shouldve been roy, but people act like Amare was just a dunking dummy that couldn't play. Then people said once he got hurt, he would lose his leaping ability and would be washed up. When he got hurt, he came back with a better jumper and better ft along with his explosiveness. He doesn't explode like he used to, but he still gets off the ground. Then people said wait till the playoffs when the game slow up. In the playoffs he played even better and killed duncan for a entire series. My point is I guess is although this is a houston board, its would be nice to give other good players their due. So when someone tries to give players on other teams their due, its seems like bashing. Well from the early days of francis v davis v terry v bibby v miller, I've always had debates on this board about the virtues of other players. So its not just yao v howard, I've had this happen since the early days.

    I guess, even if guys think yao is better than howard, they don't have to make arguments like "all he can do is dunk" or other false things to inflate yao. If you like yao more than howard, just tell what u like about the guys. You don't have to put down the other guys to gte ur point across.
     
  15. emmanuelb

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    dwight is better because hes a two way player some nights your offense isnt going to be there so you have to fall back on your defense. also dwight has better hands than yao so you cant front him but yao has more talent and skill.
     
  16. Problem-Chyld

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    when dwight hits his 30s your going to see a decline in his game i mean all he really does is dunk, all his points scored are athleticism plays he has no jumper and his freethrows are bad. Yao will always be good because he doesnt rely on athleticism at all. Same with big z hes already 33 and his numbers have always been the same
     
  17. tmac2k8

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    Dwight over Yao simply because of the way they play, how hard they play, not bc of skill. Yao by far is more skilled but sometimes I think he lacks fire and does not play as hard as he can. Lets 6'3 guys grab rebounds over him and stuff.
     
  18. SuperStar

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    Sorry to tell you this but almost every player tends to decline in their 30's. When Dwight hits 30 I'm sure he's been in the league long enough to adjust to playing at his age accordingly like most players do.
     
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    Funny last night Doug Collins still complained that Orlando "not get much nationalwide publicity" :rolleyes:
     
  20. SuperStar

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    It's sad how most Yao fans use numbers to defend Yao when it's in their favor but when he gets beaten badly they try to find every excuse possible.
     

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