[ESPN.com] Call Tracy McGrady amazing, but don't call him MVP

and he had to play the WHOLE game TWICE in the past week. yes we are having a lot guys stepping up, but tmac is our one constant since yao has been down (except for last night and you expect that after playing a guy to exhaustion).

but i care more for having the best team than best player or MVP.

 

Is stands for MVP....that means the Most Valuable Player on one team........

Lebron= is probably the most valuable player on the cavs.....without him.....who are they....

KG= Is he the most valuable player on the celtics.....No.....the three of the superstars on that team are......KG couldnt do anything with timberwolves......Peirce did nothing with celtics alone......and Ray did nothing with sonics........He is not the Most valuable player on that team......

Chris Paul= without chris the hornets would be fighting for fifteen wins.....What about David west?.......Nobody would even know David west without Paul.....And tyson would still be getting occasionally a put back dunk to highlight his day and thats it so yes.....Chris Paul is Definitly the MVP on his team.....

Kobe= Kobe has always been the Most Valuable player since shaq left.......Even without Gasol............Kobe is so good he will do something incredible and i will not even really notice it.....Because he has done it for so long......Most valuable Player on the lakers is kobe.....

Tracy Mcgrady.....Yes I think Mcgrady is the best player on the rockets and has really stepped up since Yao has been injured....But is he more Valuable than all the supporting role guys coming together as one and destroying teams..or battier for shutting downt he best scorer on each team we play..He is definitly a starting allstar but hes not the Most Valuable player of the 22 in a row Rockets



Thats my veiw on what MVP means and the veiw on the why and why not the front runners deserve it

 

Makes sense; but I just can't fathom giving the award to anybody from the East. Not this year.

 

Good argument. Bron and Paul are definitely up there too and if they win it, it wouldn't be an injustice by any means.

But, Cs were the worst in the league last year w/ Pierce. Add KG and Allen and all of a sudden they have the best record and one of the best defenses. I just can't see how the defensive improvement has anything to do with adding Allen though, so I still think KG is still at the top.

 

Excuse me? Then who exactly is the MVP on this Rockets team? It easily is McGrady - no one sane would argue against that.

 

Team-Mac won't get it... he's too much of a team player these days. And it's all about the team and all on the team, not on him.

 

Let Kobe win the MVP and TMac the championship

 

why are so many people on Lebron's jock,o yea cus he can dunk and shoot 100 times, he hasnt done ****. He is in the East and chokes so many times . OVERRATED, He can score all he wants but they cant hang with the West, like the Rox.

 

MVP is the most valuable player in the NBA and not in a team, although one of the qualities of an MVP entitles that he helps his team tremendously. T-Mac is playing good, but he is not consistent and the whole team are responsible for the streak as much as T-Mac. And someone claimed TMAC was under appreciated, i think thats a lie, he was appreciated very very well his first couple of seasons, just never lived up to the hype most of the time.

i hope TMAC continues his hot play, not so that he can win the MVP but so that we can do damage in the playoffs. I am quite sure he will prefer the finals MVP than the regular season MVP because i'm quite sure if we make it to the finals, he will definitely win even if he has to rob someone just like Duncan robbed Ginobili 3 years ago

 

Yes, good article!

IMO, MVP this year is either Paul or Lebron! And that depend on their team's performance of regular season and maybe their first round of playoff!

 

Mcgrady is so crap.

The supporting cast is going to take mcgrady to the championship.

Trade him for any other star in the league, and the championship happens. Give me dwight howard, kobe, lebron, chris paul, carmelo antonie, Garnett,etc..

just not that awefull half a court three point shooting noob.

Why work hard and drive to the basket (and get calls from the refs) when I can be lazy and throw rocks 30 foot from teh basket.

I HATE HIM!

But I love all the others

 

Exactly. If you are fair, the argument would go like this. McGrady is the best player on the team with the best record in what is potentially, the toughest conference ever. The drawbacks are that the team has not been playing well the entire season and McGrady has not played well the entire season himself. Add in the fact that McGrady is the best player on the team that has set what is currently the second longest winning streak in NBA history.

To me, McGrady has a very strong argument for MVP. Does that necessarily mean that he is the MVP? No. But for some members, on here Clutchfans.net of all places, to definitively say that McGrady is not the MVP is just sad to me.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

 

MVP does not mean best player. in no way shape or form has tmac been the best player in the NBA this yr. if the award was for best player, tmac would already have an MVP from 02-03. kobe would have gotten the last 2 yrs. lebron would get it this yr.

nash averaged 14 AND 11 (are you going to tell me those are MVP-like #s? cmon seriously). tmac's stats may not be as eye-popping (22, 5, 5.6) but he has elevated his game when yao went out and brought a type of leadership since he has returned from injury that was unexpected. let's be real, tmac has been a true leader on this team ever since we returned from the all-star break, talking to teammates, showing passion, being humble, share the love...

again, the MVP is often given to the best player on the best team (or top 2-3 team). if houston wins the west by 2-3 games, i think he has a GREAT chance of winning it. what we are doing is unprecedented with the type of talent assembled.

yes our role players have stepped up. but tmac had to play TWO 48-minute games within the past week. that showed he's still that indispensible guy that we need on the floor. adelman still doesn't have that much confidence when tmac sits. yes tmac struggled v. the lakers (his first bad game since yao, which is what 10 games?), the lakers stayed glued to him and left all our shooters open. he makes an impact regardless.

again, the ONLY way tmac can win the MVP is if we win the west and win it by going through this tough stretch in a fairly convincing fashion.

the MVP is not for first round success or playoffs, it's a REGULAR SEASON award.

 

I think the fact that so many of the guys rank ahead of T-Mac in these standard metrics perfectly demonstrates why T-Mac deserves the award, as well as being the ultimate FU to Charles Barkley: T-Mac does indeed make his teammates better. Is anyone going to try to say that Landry would have a PER anywhere near what he does were it not for T-Mac drawing Landry's man away from him and THEN hitting him with a perfect pass, time and time again? One of the biggest reasons this team is still adding to this insane consecutive-win streak is because game after game, T-Mac forces the defense to commit, freeing one or more of his teammates up for an easy bucket or an open shot. Kobe draws the same attention, but is not nearly as good as Tracy at recognizing the double- or triple-team and getting the ball to the open man.

Personally, I don't care at all whether T-Mac wins the MVP award, since it's gone to way too many questionable players in the past for my taste, but PUHLEEZE don't try to tell me that this particular Rockets team isn't where it is because of his influence. Who else could have a miserable game like he did on Sunday, yet still distract the opposition to the point of letting Rafer Alston score 31 points?!? Nobody, that's who. Tracy McGrady *is* this team.

 

Half of what you said I never typed so you must have quoted the wrong person. I never said McGrady is the best player in the NBA. Secondly, I'm not going to argue with over whether or not Nash deserved his two MVP's because I'm not going to change your mind and you are not going to change mine. I do believe he deserved them both for the record but don't type why you don't believe so. It won't do either of us any good.

In fact, after reading everything you said, I basicly agree with you. I have no idea why you quoted my post. Perhaps I am mistaken.

 

oh, just to reiterate your point

 

Ah ok. Thumbs up then!

 

you dont want individual prize OR you cant

there is big difference.

 

I agree it is definately Rafer! haha jk .

CP3 and Kobe have such a huge impact on their team as well as Lebron, there is no way we can give it to Tmac, those 3 are way above him.

 

Gasol-less LA is #7 seed in the west

LBJ is the emperor in the east

Boston has 3 stars, and I think Pierce is more important than KG is their system

Chris Paul is good, but they are behind us

So, talking about MVP is like a joke before someone beat us.