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[ESPN.COM] Amare Contemplated Retirement

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by Nice Rollin, Oct 11, 2006.

  1. DollarBill

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    Oh, Please! Amare, Dont' retire. Come back 100%. If you go now, ppl will never know for sure that how good you really are without Nash feedin' ya ball. I certainly don't wanna have the notion that you are only good because of Nash hanging over my head for the rest of my life.
     
  2. RocketForever

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    I don't think you can apply the experience of a microfracture injury to another person. From what I heard, at least 50% of the recovery from that kind of injury is mental. A basketball player has 100% recovered from microfracture injury only if his knees have really fully healed (which is hard enough already) AND he does not think about the knees breaking again everytime he jumps.
     
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  3. Nice Rollin

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    yeah you're right
     
  4. Nice Rollin

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    uhhh...we know that
     
  5. macalu

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    eh, there's things to not like about Amare, but this isn't one of them. if it was any other player besides Yao or a Rocket, we'd all be rushing to post a gif of it and laugh at that players expense.
     
  6. macalu

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    :confused: doesn't everyone try to jump as high as they can when trying to make a basket?
     
  7. Rocket River

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    Amare hatred Aside

    can he be a Decent NBA player with the knees?
    Is his shot strong enough? Passing? Defense?
    etc

    What are Amare's non-jumping quickness ability strengths


    Rocket River
     
  8. compucomp

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    His third year I've seen him develop a solid elbow/mid-range jump shot, that he'll pull out if people sag off on him. He doesn't pass. His defense looks better on Sportscenter than it actually is i.e. he'll get monster blocks, but then he'll let his man beat him more often than he should. He doesn't have much real post skill, he like to take the ball at the top of the key, and when he does post up he mostly uses his quickness.

    I really think Steve Nash makes him look better than he is. Nobody else can set him up like Nash does. People might say that there's a progression from first season to third season, but if you look at his PER, it's 16.2-> 19.8 -> 26.6, you see that it increased a bit from first to second, but increased by a lot from second to third, when Nash came on board.

    The vibes surrounding him are not positive at all this preseason, and I'm very pleased with that. May he be injury plagued and ineffective for the rest of his career.
     
  9. robbie380

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    my opinion is that it is going to take at least 24 months. i am not as far along in the recovery process as amare. my surgery was 8 months ago. him coming back last year didn't effect the recovery process either. he shouldn't have come back, but i don't think it hurt him since he really didn't play that much.

    the way it works, at least with me, is that you feel good as you are slowly going along with your rehab. then your knee really starts to feel good and you think you can start pushing it harder. but when you push too hard you get a terrible rebound effect and it takes a couple weeks to recover. it's can be really depressing and you feel like you aren't going to get better. like when amare started off great that first game and then plummeted quickly that's been very typical for me.

    and who knows if his knees are ruined for life. if he was missing a ton of cartilage, like i am from 2 ACL reconstructions (i am a freaking gimp), then yeah he would be done like bob sura. i think he is just coming back way too early. this surgery might as well be like the way tommy john surgery was when it first came where it took you 2 full years to recover. i believe he can fully recover since this was his first knee operation...it just takes a long time.
     
  10. robbie380

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    man that's a ****ty thing to say.
     
  11. m_cable

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    I think he's got enough of a midrange/elbow jumpshot to still be a very effective player. His knees will come back, he won't have the same explosiveness, but he'll be able to play on them. Just like Mcdyess and Webber have been able to play through their surgeries. The big difference is that Amare is much younger than those guys, and has more prime years in which to modify and adapt his game.

    Offensively speaking, I'd say that Amare's ceiling is that of Elton Brand. Just deadly on the mid-range pick and pop, and awkward (but effective) fadeaways in the low-post. Defensively, it's hard to say. Amare's never been as consistently good at rebounding and post-defense as Brand, but he's got the tools to be an absolute horse. It'll be interesting to see if Amare's willing to put the effort into reach his potential in other ways besides the flashy manuevers that he's made his reputation on.
     
  12. hooroo

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    suns need to dump his contract for grant hill's expiring contract. then hope they can land darko, west, or kaman next free agency.
     
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    I think it's too early to say that Amare will not come back 100%. He's still very young. This injury might have forced him to work on other aspects of his game and mae him a better player in the long run.
     
  14. rezdawg

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    Not when you arent getting contested.
     
  15. Yaozer

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    I hope you are wrong. I very much dislike Amare, I don't know why.. but I just do. It's not from him laughing at Yao, I laughed too, and I bet some of the Rockets players were laughing quietly at it. And it's also not from him making that ROY comment, although it helps.. I think that was just him making a stupid 18 year old comment. I hate him like I hate Karl Malone.. Just his face makes you mad. That shyte stays with you.. forever.

    I feel no sympathy for someone who's being paid that much. I hope he'll be Grant Hill II. Amare, if you're reading this.. quit contemplating and just quit already. Ok he's not going to read this, but I really think he should retire. If not, then let him have a crap rest of a career.

    He was fun to watch.. sort of (because I hate him).. but there will be other fun ones. The suns are fun to watch with or without him.
     
  16. ChenZhen

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    Why are people still mad at him for laughing at Yao?

    Will you laugh at stickman (Shawn Bradley) the same way if he gets crossed over like that? Did you laugh at him when Hakeem juked him with that ball fake underneath the basket? Did you laugh at him when he gets dunked on by T-mac?

    Double standard I'd say...
     
  17. Omer

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    Maybe if he didn't change his damn jersey number...
     
  18. rezdawg

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    If I was a professional athlete on the court there with TV cameras, etc...I'd act in a professional manner. No double standard.
     
  19. Nice Rollin

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    no actually i didnt laugh.....i was gettin crunk for tmac. i was yellin at the TV in all of those situations...i actually felt bad from bradley while at the same time i was cheerin for the rockets/tmac
     
  20. Nice Rollin

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    what im trying to say is a REAL ROCKETS FAN'S reaction to that was "lets goooo tmac! get up bradley!" talkin mess to the tv screen.... more than "hahahaha loook at shawn bradley. thats funny. he go dunked on!"
     

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