[ESPN] Chris Paul Wants to Win

nebula955 · Jun 23, 2010

quit speculating as to random trades of chris paul to not-the-rockets

DaDakota · Jun 23, 2010

I can not stand the guy, but, if he were on my team, I would flip flop faster than anyone could sneeze.

DD

ryano2009 · Jun 24, 2010

Mr Chuck Norris said:

I would Trade Brooks in a Heartbeat....
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I would trade brooks and Lowry in heartbeat.

LongTimeFan · Jun 24, 2010

I don't think NO wants a PG in return for Paul -- Collison is the successor. If the NJN had offered Lopez + #3, I'm sure they would have gotten a lot further.. but it doesn't make sense for the best player returning to NO to be a PG, they already have a pretty damn good one waiting in the wings.

qetwr111 · Jun 24, 2010

Portland seems like it has the pieces to get Paul.

Various picks/Oden/Batum/Miller (expiring)/Przybilla (expiring) for Paul/Okafor (albatross contract) seems plausible.

I think Pritchard is first using Rudy and $$ to move up in the draft to get more valuable pieces they can include in a future trade. I highly doubt they pick someone to keep from this draft. From all that I've read, it seems like they want to win now.

phantoman · Jun 24, 2010

chris is no longer untouchable.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=Aqc1Zt6Afhwbx87s3tLidfa8vLYF?slug=aw-chrispaul062310

NEW YORK – For months, rival executives’ calls to New Orleans general manager Jeff Bower on Chris Paul(notes) were met with an unmistakable response: Don’t bother. No engagement, no discussions. The Hornets’ franchise star was untouchable.

This has changed now. Bower still hasn’t started to shop him, but those close to Paul believed a threshold was crossed with the mixed message from the owner’s public statement on Wednesday. Nowhere did they hear out of George Shinn’s legendarily duplicitous mouth what the Hornets had always maintained about Chris Paul: We won’t trade him.

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Chris Paul could eventually be pointed out of town if someone makes the right offer.

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Around the league – and now, close to Paul – they believe the Hornets’ tenor has taken a dramatic transformation in recent days. They believe the Hornets have opened the bidding on the best player in franchise history. Shinn is on the way out as an owner, unmotivated to compete, and Paul is rapidly losing patience with the organization. Before Paul starts screaming that he wants out – and it’s coming, sooner than later – the Hornets seem inclined to solicit bids while they still hold some leverage in discussions.

So much of the problem here lies with the holdup of the Hornets’ sale from Shinn to minority partner, Gary Chouest, who, sources say, is still trying to recruit other partners to burden the purchase price with him. Shinn is a horrible owner, full of self-righteous blather and hollow commitments to winning. The sooner he sells, the better for the NBA and pro ball in New Orleans.

Paul loves that town, but he’s tired of the mom-and-pop Hornets. The only chance they have to keep him comes with an oilman, Chouset, getting the team and keeping his promise to spend money and try to compete in the Western Conference arms race.

Paul doesn’t want to leave for just anywhere, but he’s open to several select places, sources say. As do most stars, Paul wants a contender. Still, he is welcoming trade scenarios with rebuilding big-market teams like New York and New Jersey who have the resources to reshape themselves and compete for titles. Sources say Paul was livid when his name was mentioned in talks with Memphis, but all Bower did was answer the telephone and reject an offer. No one tried to shop him there.

Bower has been open to attaching Darren Collison(notes) to one of the Hornets’ bad contracts – such as Emeka Okafor(notes) – to clear salary, sources say. The first step of moving Paul will come when Bower proposes a trade that requests a team with cap space take Paul and absorb one of those bad contracts. Some officials believe Bower had made that kind of an offer to New Jersey, but Nets officials deny it.

When the possibility of the Portland Trail Blazers making a bid on Paul was brought to him, a source said, Paul’s reaction was simple: Why would I want to go there if they have to trade LaMarcus Aldridge(notes) or Brandon Roy(notes) to get me? I’d want to play with those players.

That’s the problem with trying to trade Paul. For one of the best point guards in the NBA, the Hornets would want no less than a young All-Star caliber player, a starter and draft picks. Only then, what kind of gutted core would await Paul with his new team?

Portland has bordered on tampering with Paul for two years now, and it’s never been much of a secret within the Hornets’ organization that the Blazers have gone to great lengths to make Paul aware of how badly they want him. It didn’t go unnoticed when Blazers president Larry Miller – a former Nike executive who had dealings with Paul – cozied up to the Hornets star on New Orleans’ trips to the Rose Garden. It is what it is, but most agree the Blazers have been merciless in trying to get into Paul’s ear – and those around him – to convince him to create a stir and force his way out.

Nevertheless, the biggest problem for New Orleans and Paul’s own agents at Octagon remains the relentless meddling of LeBron James’(notes) childhood buddy and business manager Maverick Carter and power broker William Wesley. The NBA lets LeBron’s friends come and go as they please in multiple team matters that don’t involve them, and they’re never held accountable for whatever complications they create. James’ camp can decry Jalen Rose’s proclamation that James is out of Cleveland, but no one is privately pushing that agenda harder to people than World Wide Wes.

They’re all buddies with Chris Paul, and they all want a piece of his representation. Wes has shopped Paul to teams, and he’ll continue to do it. That’s how it goes now, and that’s the world the mom-and-pop Hornets are living with now. Yes, the Hornets owner issued a statement on Wednesday that had some beautiful thoughts about Chris Paul, but everyone – including Paul’s own people – noticed what was missing: An assurance he wouldn’t trade him.

Even Bower says he’ll evaluate all offers, and those who made calls into New Orleans on Wednesday say that bids for the franchise point guard weren’t immediately rejected, but rather put on the big board in the Hornets’ facility. Chris Paul is still the face of the franchise, still the biggest star in Hornets history. Just understand this: He’s no longer untouchable.
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nebula955 · Jun 24, 2010

qetwr111 said:

Portland seems like it has the pieces to get Paul.

Various picks/Oden/Batum/Miller (expiring)/Przybilla (expiring) for Paul/Okafor (albatross contract) seems plausible.

I think Pritchard is first using Rudy and $$ to move up in the draft to get more valuable pieces they can include in a future trade. I highly doubt they pick someone to keep from this draft. From all that I've read, it seems like they want to win now.
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There's no chance at all Oden/Batum/Miller/Pryzbilla would trump, say Brooks/Budinger or Hill/Battier/Jeffries in terms fo value right now.

BEAT LA · Jun 24, 2010

OKC probably wants to unload Emeka on whoever makes an offer for Chris Paul. Aaron Gray does a good job playing center for them for less than a 10th of the price.

Hornets trade:
CP3
Emeka Okafor

Rockets trade:
AB0
Jordan Hill
Kevin Martin
Shane Battier (expiring)

This is the price for Chris Paul.

CP3 / Lowry
Budinger / Taylor
Ariza / Jeffries / #14
Okafor / Scola
Yao / Hayes / Andersen

Emeka can help reduce Yao's minutes at center.

HTown_TMac · Jun 24, 2010

nebula955 said:

There's no chance at all Oden/Batum/Miller/Pryzbilla would trump, say Brooks/Budinger or Hill/Battier/Jeffries in terms fo value right now.
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serioulsy?

nebula955 · Jun 24, 2010

HTown_TMac said:

serioulsy?
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? MIP vs knee fail? "serioulsy?"

da_juice · Jun 24, 2010

BEAT LA said:

OKC probably wants to unload Emeka on whoever makes an offer for Chris Paul. Aaron Gray does a good job playing center for them for less than a 10th of the price.

Hornets trade:
CP3
Emeka Okafor

Rockets trade:
AB0
Jordan Hill
Kevin Martin
Shane Battier (expiring)

This is the price for Chris Paul.

CP3 / Lowry
Budinger / Taylor
Ariza / Jeffries / #14
Okafor / Scola
Yao / Hayes / Andersen

Emeka can help reduce Yao's minutes at center.
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I heard one rumour that they could send Emeka to New York for Eddy Curry(whose mamoth contract would finally be expiring), of course as CP# mentioned, he would want out if he believes they aren't willing to spend enough to win a championship.

HTown_TMac · Jun 24, 2010

nebula955 said:

? MIP vs knee fail? "serioulsy?"
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Brooks vs. Oden.. you have a point, but you still cant count out Oden.

Miller, who would be a pretty good backup. Batum, who is a dam good role player. Pryz, assuming he is healthy.. dam good backup (or even a decent starter)

vs.

Budinger, who is coming off a pretty good rookie season, but is overrated by our fans. Hill, who is also had a good ending to his rookie season, but no way does our package beat PDX's...

All 4 of their players have been regualr rotation players(Starters).. Only one from our package that has been is Brooks. Budinger and Hill have the potential, but who's to say they will maximize it... (Even though I hope they do no matter which team) I just feel a fan that we overrate our players too much

qetwr111 · Jun 24, 2010

nebula955 said:

There's no chance at all Oden/Batum/Miller/Pryzbilla would trump, say Brooks/Budinger or Hill/Battier/Jeffries in terms fo value right now.
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You do realize that any CP3 trade would inolve Okafor too, right?

Neither of the trades you proposed give up enough salary, and Houston doesn't have enough capspace to absorb the salary.

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