[ESPN] Casserly confirms Young out of the picture.

because people like you just can't let it go, admit you were wrong and move on.

 

like reggieidiot here,

everytime I open up a thread I see I'm delusional, I have a mancrush, I can't let go, I'm slobbering,

at least the vy backers aim their posts at the texans,

 

Haha, not changing the title didn't stop you from posting the same things over and over. For all the times you've been trying to convince the so-called "VY crazies" that the Texans weren't drafting him, you were contributing to the monster thread that you wanted the mods to close for so long. Don't tell other people to let it go when you obviously can't let it go either.

 

Exactly. Desert Scar hit it right on the head. Could you imagine the uproar by some posters had it been VY's family living in a house under questionable means?

And all along, I've been in the middle and now I'm downright giddy at our offensive potential next year.

 

I am sick of this Young bs. He is a very good QB that won a national title. If he is so good why isn't he higher on all of the draft boards? Everybody is b****ing because he is from Texas and they want him to stay home. Lets say the roles were reversed and Bush was the stud RB from UT and Young won a title at USC. Would so many be crying if we didn't draft Young then? I don't think so, draft with your brain and not your heart.

 

Casserly: Texans not interested in Young

HOUSTON -- Sorry, Vince, but you won't be playing for your hometown team.

The Houston Texans will take either USC running back Reggie Bush or North Carolina State defensive end Mario Williams with the first pick in Saturday's draft, general manager Charley Casserly said Wednesday.
The Texans dashed the hopes of Texas fans who have been clamoring for the team to pick Vince Young, a Houston native who led the Longhorns to a Rose Bowl win and the national championship over Bush and USC.

"We came to the conclusion that to draft a quarterback, whether it be Vince Young, Matt Leinart or Jay Cutler, was not the best thing for this football team," Casserly said. "The best thing for this football team was to use the first pick in this draft to add a premiere player at another position."

Casserly said part of the decision involved contacting other teams to see if they wanted to trade for the top pick.

"Right now we have nobody interested in that first pick, so we have gone ahead and begun negotiations with two players," Casserly said.

The public fervor for the team to pick Young hasn't died down since he declared for the NFL draft four days after his 467-yard performance in the Rose Bowl. The latest example came when a local businessman bought a full-page ad in Sunday's Houston Chronicle imploring Texans owner Bob McNair to draft Young.

Casserly agreed that the pressure from fans to pick Young has been unprecedented.

"People have asked me to think of a comparable situation. I can't think of one," Casserly said.

He had many glowing things to say about Young and said he understands the "fans' passion," but the Texans decided he wasn't right for the them.

"When you're on this side of the table, the only thing that counts is winning," Casserly said. "You've got to do what you think is the best way to win, so you've got to eliminate all of those outside influences ... because at the end of the day all anybody cares about is the score on Sunday.

"We didn't think it was the right decision to win the most games for us," he said.

Casserly knows that fans can be a fickle sort and that allegiances can change overnight.

"We can't let ourselves be influenced by public pressure," he said. "You can never do that. Public pressure can sway."

But is he prepared for the potential backlash if the team passes on not just Young but Heisman Trophy winner Bush as well?

"If that happens, then I'll be the first one to defend Mario Williams," he said. "What people should understand is that if we take Mario Williams and if somebody doesn't like it, then I'm right here and I'm the guy to yell at. Nobody else. Boo me. Don't boo Mario Williams."

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft06/news/story?id=2422983


If he drafts Mario Williams, i think the fans of Houston will do more than just boo.

 

I want to apologize for my mancrush statement if it irritated you that badly--I was just joking around.

Both sides have royally pissed me off. The "you can't let it go" statement, whoever made it, is true not only of the VY side but also of the other side.

I jump in every now and then with a smartalec remark just to attempt to ease my irritation and maybe bring a little comic relief (sad an attempt as it may be) to others.

 

If VY becomes a Titan, he will terrorize the Texans for years to come. I hope he goes to another team like the Raiders or a team not in the Texan's division. And why do I have this feeling that VY is going to have a better career than David Carr?

 

you don't have to apologize, I would be lying if I said I never insulted anyone on the board. its just from the beginning and especially lately its been confrontational. I see no problem with debating this over the next ten years. sports debates are supposed to be some what enjoyable. but like I said I have been guilty of it also.

I'm trying to turnover a new leaf. make love not war.

 

I think that all of the "I'm not going to be a Texans fan anymore because they didn't draft VY" thing is also unfair to Vince. It is making me want to root for the guy to suck just so that all the people who are shoving "I told you so's" in the faces of everyone else long before that statement is even valid suffer from their own overly optimistic viewpoint.

Personally, I would've been happy with Vince or Reggie. I think they are both going to be great.

I guess I just never understood the player allegiance. I was raised as the fan of teams, not individuals. To each his own, I suppose.

 

I'm still waiting for your signature, "Mr. Reggie Bush is six feet tall and I know it"

Talk about people who won't admit they're wrong.

 

The Vince situation is truly unique and I can't think of a very comparable situation off the top of my head. This is a guy who in high school was wowing everyone. Once he ran over my Katy Tigers, I was enamored. Then he went to the college team I've rooted for my whole life. He showed an amazing and unique talent there while leading the university that roughly half of Houston roots for to their first national championship in over 35 years. He declares for the draft the same year his hometown team has the first pick. Has something like this ever happened?

I really don't think there's a lot of player allegiance in sports. This is just one of those rare occasions. You didn't hear a bunch of UT fans pissed about hardly any other player that the Texans passed on that was a Longhorn. While most were pissed that we traded down instead of taking DJ last draft, you didn't hear one single Texan fan say that they weren't going to root for the Texans because of it.

Vince is just different.

 

the one thing I will say about the "I will stop being a fan" comments is this, this franchise is only 4 years old. I don't agree with the comments they should take young for the marketing possibilities, their decision should be mainly what these guys can do to help them win. marketing should only be a tie-breaker if you rate them equally.

but personally the texans do not have me as a fan like the oilers did, like the rockets, even like the stros. they're just to new, and they are so bland. so I can understand the "I won't be a fan" comments.

 

exactly, last year the texans needed a linebacker and derrick johnson was on the board. he was arguably the best defensive player in college and the texans passed. longhorn fans were upset, but you know what, johnson ain't young. people have largely forgotten. young is a different animal. that's why the claims of fans only love him because he's from texas are baseless.

the texans don't have a longhorn on their roster and longhorn fans still root for the texans. mattress mack isn't a longhorn. people see something special in vince. if we're wrong, so be it.

and the other thing is this is an important point in this franchises history. they were lucky enough to suck so badly to get the number one pick in one of the most top heavy drafts in recent history. they won't get too many opportunities like this.

 

pgabriel, my arguments with you in the past have not been about who the texans should draft, but who will they draft. That is a huge difference.

Up until the last minute you were saying that you thought the Texans were going to draft Young. I called you deliusional up to the last minute because it really couldn't have been more clear to most people. If you'd like I can go back and dig up the posts.

It was never about who the texans should draft. That debate will be open for awhile. I hope you get where i'm coming from with this. I remained in those threads because I was saying the Texans weren't drafting a quarterback, period. And now i'm labeled a Vince Young hater. wtf?

 

Ditto.

All the VY fans saying they will be lesser of a fan, or not a fan at all, will, no doubt, be back on the bandwagon if and/or when the Texans become a winner.

 

im still a fan of teams. 94 Rockets. Sam Cassell, Robert Horry..
I still root for those dudes. I still listen to Kenny on TNT and his Sirius Radio show.

I hope VY wins a superbowl to prove people wrong. he keeps getting dissed and the Texans NOT picking him will drive him to a Michael Jordan like work ethic.