most of his points are from the mid range game. <object width="425" height="355"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/6PLWvSqkDAU&rel=1"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/6PLWvSqkDAU&rel=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="355"></embed></object> i dont need to google. i'm a veteran NBA fan. I got league pass when it was first offered. Garnett didn't do crap without Sam when he was with the Wolves. Also, you should check out how well Elton Brand and the CLIPPERS played pre-Sammy. I watched Sam play with the Bucks (no top 2 big men) and he took them to the ECF. if it weren't for that ball hog Glen Robinson, they would have made the finals. He's way better than what you remember as a kid. also he and Robert Horry are the last players playing on the 1994 1st Championship team. They have proven that the team was legendary with all their accomplishments. The playoff performances not the choke job TMAC does in the playoffs for us. Derick Fisher shut Tmac for Utah. I don't care about the regular season blah blah blahs. maybe i'm just an old Rockets fan. Give me heroes in the playoffs.
Sorry but you just lost all credibility with me when you said Garnett didn't do crap without Cassell. Like TMac, Garnett didn't have quality teammates to make a playoff run. On the contrary, Cassell always did as you keep saying he was on a legendary TEAM. Keep proving me right...
explain to me how the Clippers went from the worst franchise in all of sports to a playoff team? You can use your Tmac doesn't have quality players BS all you want. put Tmac on the Lakers team last year. You think they make the playoffs? NO. How about this one, you put Tmac on the Clippers instead of Cassell the year the Clippers almost beat the Suns in the SECOND ROUND. Guess what? They'd lose to Denver in the 1st cause Tmac hasn't proven he could win and he's NOT THE LEADER when times are tough. Case in point, blown leads to the Mavs and Utah in the playoffs. What happened? Tmac had Yao Ming, the best center in basketball. keep hating on Sam. you proved yourself wrong anytime you write a word dude. I notice how you don't even comment on how in the world the Bucks made it without a "TOP BIGMAN". Oh on top of that, No ELTON BRAND played when Sam dropped 32 points.
The Nets made the playoffs with Sam Cassell Kendall Gill Jayson Williams Kerry Kittles Keith Van Horn Oh what team of Legends. Still have no comment or knowledge from you (probably have none) about how the Bucks made the playoffs. What Ray Allen? Didn't seem to play well with Rashard in Seattle. Glen Robinson? What happened to that guy after the Bucks?
2004-2005 Clippers Elton Brand Magette Kaman Bobby Simmons Livingston 37-45 (No playoffs) Obviously Oh haven't been to the playoffs since 1997. Cassell brought these losers to the 2nd round of the playoffs.
Tinman, You know too much about the game to get into "I'm right, you're wrong" pissing matches with folks whose knowledge about the game is limited to what they see in the box scores and on SportsCenter. Sam's midrange game opened up everything for the Bucks. Ray Allen could get more open long range shots because defenders had to worry about Cassell. That much was evident the first game that Cassell played in Milwakee, when he went perfect from the floor and the line, and had something like 30 or 31 points with 9 assists and no turnovers. Cassell will be a coach one day because inside that ugly head is a basketball brain for the ages. -P1st, S2nd
Great post ps1st, s2nd Sam has said many times that's what he wants to do right after he stops playing. He says he's inspired about how well Avery Johnson is coaching. Yeah, I get into these matches, but he's the last one left from the old Rocket glory days still playing. That Bucks team should have made the finals. Damn you Glen Robinson! Remember all he had to do hit a stupid 5 foot jumper for the Bucks to advance . Cassell showed he could adapt to any team. The Bucks team, Wolves, Clippers and Rockets were completely different. I've also noticed that if you talk to fans of the Clips, Bucks, Wolves and Rockets, they were all appreciative of Sam.
kiki, It's one thing to be argumentative, and another to ignorant and argumentative. Tinman is right, and you are too ignorant to even see the merit in his argument. Please stick to your boxscores, and leave the analysis to those of us who actually watch the games with an inkling about what's going on. -P1st, S2nd
Rather trade Steve Francis for Sam. That way, cat and steve can be reunited. (not like there is anything wrong with that) If I was coach, I'd only let sam play less than 20 minutes. I'd make him start the second and play ten minutes in. Then have him play the final ten minutes. He will find the right guy. He will make the shot.
I've wondered a few times if Rafer's game might improve if he worked on developing a strong mid-range game and hit the shots more consistently. Also Luther, although I know Luther would have a longer ways to go. Also Rafer with a strong mid-range game- as he drives toward the basket might draw defenders away from Yao - leaving Rafer with the choice to pass to a single covered Yao or shoot himself, or pass to another player. Hey it sounds like ball movement basketball!
Deals For Cassell Being Discussed Mike James for Sam works straight up, but there's no reason the Clips would do that. This also works, though is unlikely: T-Mac, Mike James, Steve Francis, Kirk Snyder, 1st round pick for Sam, Corey, Cuttino, Tim Thomas, Al Thorton Aside from the fact that it's unlikely, we'd also be trading 4 people who don't play for us for at least 3 people who should get PT, 1 rookie who needs PT eventually, and Tim Thomas, who Adelman might like anyway. PG: Cassell, Alston, Brooks SG: Maggette, Mobley, Head SF: Battier, Maggette, Thorton, Bonzi PF: Scola, Chuck, Thomas C: Yao With all those players still, I'd throw in a couple of more to the deal...Bonzi or Chuck or Luther.
I'm not even going to continue. I've already seen that it's come down to personal attacks on me. You both continue to have selective arguments.
dude, you obviously don't know anything about sam cassell and you hate the guy. i mean the original post is about how well he played coming back from injury vs a contender team like the Suns. he's 38 and Tmac is 29. Yet for some reason, you can't justify why he has taken his teams to playoff success and Tmac has not. The his teams are better than Tmac's is a crock of s***. Tmac's Rockets teams were loaded with talent, NBA finals? well at least better than 2nd round. You mean to tell me, our talent level was worse than Utah's last year? You mean to tell me, Elton Brand is better than Yao? Oh, Tmac was on that TORONTO team with Vince Carter. No talent right?
dont even sweat it tinman, im just full of pride for the last remaining rocket heroes of 94 and 95 cassell and horry, and like what i said from my other post, at their old age they still show that heart of a champion that rudy t talked about... and for anyone who QUESTIONS their heart.. should really be slapped silly... dont even compare t-mac to them until t-mac can do something in the playoffs... (game 4 NBA Finals Rockets vs Magic Cassell with an injured hand played the game against the rockets trainer's wishes.. tell me thats not heart! same with Robert Horry he pulled a muscle on his back getting a rebound in game 4 of that championship series and yet he came back after that time out hitting 2 more three pointers and clutch free throws while he was in obvious pain by his facial expression.. tell me thats not heart? dont even mention tmac and heart in the same sentence! ... if tmac had an injured hand he would probably be helped out of the court and miss 30 games just as long as it isnt an all star game...
Why would I hate on Cassell? Why would I hate on any person in the NBA? I'm not a hater like you are, don't try to bring me into your haters circle (against TMac). Like I said before, you lost all creditability with me. Your even asking me why that Toronto team with VC went nowhere? I guess you expect all highschool superstars to just get to the finals easy huh? Every highschool project must be a Lebron or bust? Don't bother trying to answer these questions.
dude, its quite obvious you have no credit period. avoiding answering questions about how Sam Cassell's teams had so many better players than Tmac's teams. Yeah, Toronto is legit, you asked why Tmac wasn't on teams with talent. Toronto had plenty of talent. he just decided to leave cause he didn't want any part of it Dude when you try to discredit Cassell's accomplishments, its called HATE. You started this sh$$, now you are exploited by your lack of knowledge on your posts. Lebron? are you making excuses for Tmac's lack of playoff success? Ok, lets play it your way. If you put Tmac on the Cavs last year, would they make the NBA Finals? No one is questioning Tmac's talent level. its his leadership and mental level that's below par for a person who is the leader of a team..supposedly (Its on me). yeah, pull some more bs about how sam is not important and see how many facts i'll drop on you. its gonna be like that last level on tetris.
