They're not Rocket-sided at all. People on this board are so used to hating on Brooks that they don't see that he actually has pretty good value this year, and that his value will probably never be higher given his salary and playing time opportunity. And between the two deals, the GSW is by far the least plausible. Why the hell would Golden State do that? Peja's contract is worse than either of the two chips, and both Jackson and Maggette still have game left unlike Peja. People, New Orleans is a freaking mess. Their contracts are albatrosses and they are not expiring this year. If New Orleans makes a trade this year the talent coming back will have little or no factor into the decision UNLESS that talent is cheap and under contract longterm. Under their current structure even Paul has a rough contract to stomach, getting up to 17M in 2011-2012 before he has a player option which he will probably decline. And as many others in this thread have reiterated, the argument "Paul is all their franchise has to draw crowds" does not hold water because as far as I can see they STILL can't get anyone to show up at their games even with Paul. Their only option at this point would be to rebuild and start from scratch like Sacramento, or to beg David Stern to let them move to another city. Now we can never predict what Stern will do but my guess is that he still has Katrina-guilt left over. Conclusion: As good as Paul is, he is going to be making over 44 million the next three years. (LINK ) Couple that with Peja Stojakovic's contract (2 more years, 29.5 million) and Emeka Okafor's (62.5 million over the next five years) and James Posey's (19.3 million over the next three years) and Morris Peterson's (12.8 million over two years) and you have a whole flaming riverboat full of CRAP. No team in the NBA would take three of those guys + Paul, and very few teams would be willing to take two of them. If New Orleans does NOT trade Paul and unload some of those salaries in the process, they are looking at a slow steady decline into decrepitude which will mean that their three-year plan for rebuilding won't even be able to start until 2012 at the earliest. Frankly, I'm not even sure if making a trade for Paul would be good for the Rockets. But I know that Morey is a good negotiator, and if New Orleans refuses to bend anymore then they will surely break. It's about time they bent a little bit.
I would do McGrady, Brooks, Cook, our 2010 first rounder and a future first rounder for CP3, Okafor, and Songaila.
Pretty much summed it up with that comparison. New Orleans is looking to become another Minnesota of the mid-90's if they don't trade Paul. And even Minnesota could not begin its rebuilding process until they traded Garnett away. But it sounds like their management is too stupid to realize this so who knows.
Wow, looks like the owner is pretty fed up with how the team has been handled so far and now everything is going to have to be broken down and built back up from scratch. This part stuck out to me the most:
Reminds me of the Isiah Thomas and Kevin McHale GM to Coach moves. Neither ended well. Then again, there's Greg Popovich.
Well, except for the fact that Peja's contract has 1 more year left, whereas Jackson/Maggette have 3. That is a sizeable difference. Still, as you note, Peja is freaking horrible and if the Warriors are just going to give away players and get no talent in return, then factoring in salary, you'd think they'd be looking for more or more immediate savings. My proposals were probably a "little" one-sided. But just barely. AB is at least a valuable player, and T-Mac's contract offers the biggest, most immediate savings available league wide. And I threw in a draft pick. To re-iterate: Trade One T-Mac,AB,2010 Pick for CP3, Peja Trade Two T-Mac,AB,Cook,Dorsey 2010 Pick for CP3, Peja, MoPete I'd do either of the above in a heartbeat. The Hornets would prefer #2 as it gets rid of 2 horrible players with horrible contracts. I'd probably even do something like the below: Trade 3 T-Mac,AB,Cook,Dorsey,Hayes,Taylor, 2010 Pick for CP3,Peja,MoPete,Okafor which works financially, but is just too huge of a trade, and the Rockets might have problems taking back so much salary and the Hornets would potentially be opposed to losing pretty much every effective player they have aside from West - though they would become this off-season potentially the team with the most cap room available. Here's an interesting one. As a Rockets fan, if come trade deadline the Hornets are still in the lottery and the Rockets are still in the playoff race, would you do: Trade 4 T-Mac, Talyor for Peja, Okafor, Hornets 2010 draft pick 2010 Lineup becomes - PG: Brooks, Lowry SG: Ariza, Budinger SF: Battier, 2010 Draft Pick PF: Scola (if resigned), Landry, Hayes C: Yao, Okafor, Andersen you'd also be in position this year to potentially make a playoff run. Okafor isn't a great offensive threat, but he is the rebounder/defender with size that can also score 12 ppg efficiently that the current squad is missing. in the off-season, you could potentially do a sign and trade with Scola for more help at the 2/3 spot. you certainly at that point have a front line to compete with the Lakers, Celtics, Magic of the world. But you are, on paper, not strong enough in the back-court.
Hornets are imploding. Literally. Their new head coach looks clueless and Tim Floyd is not competent either. I'm watching the Blazers vs. Hornets game right now and to say CP3 doesn't look happy is an understatement. I think he's going to force his way out of NO sooner rather than later. I wouldn't be surprised if CP3 pulls a Tmac and just gives up on his team.
Well... looks like CP3 just got a high ankle sprain. Got help off the court. Ouch. Hornets with no CP3? Yikes.
To receive that many players, Hornets have to trade away as many players.... Contrary to what is being said on the board. By axing the head coach, I doubt the new head coach, interim or long term will be trading away his best player.
The stupid questions: Scott was fired, that means he got nothing when he left? how about his contract? Can he apply for EI like we do? What's the difference with being fired, dismissed, terminated, laid-off? Thanks
Not sure if this belongs here, but I believe ESPN is saying CP3 may be out a couple weeks with his ankle injury.
When it comes to being an NBA coach, there is no difference. Byron Scott will be paid for the final year on his contract regardless. He was a lame-duck.
Thanks, A_3PO i still got confused with the terms of being fired, dismissed, terminated, laid-off due to the culture background, i mean not limited to NBA . So being fired, dismissed or terminated means employee's fault, so got no paid? lay-off means both parties are not wrong, right? But all means the contract ends? The employee got no pay further, am i right? Thanks
