ESPN Broussard: Houston has a very good chance at Bosh

Huh??? I just told you that Pierce got MORE money on this new deal BECAUSE he had that extra year to hang over the Celtics' heads.

I don't understand how you can flip that on its head.

Believe what you want, dude. I just think that you're wrong.

 

The agent can steer the client to 120 million dollars. Just like he steered the Rockets caravan a 1000 miles East of Dallas.

 

I knew he got more money already.....lol.......and it was not because he had an EXTRA year to hang over them, it was because they wanted him for more than just one year.

Ok, you think I am wrong, I can live with that.

I think that the 6th year is overblown because, just like Pierce, Dirk, Bosh, Wade, Lebron etc..etc..etc.., they can make more money with a new contract.

BTW - Still wondering if anyone can recall a single free agent that signed somewhere other than where they wanted to....

In other words their former clubs forced them to go to another team because they liked the deal better....am I missing someone, has that ever happened?

DD

 

Yeah, but its guarenteed. While you point out those guys who were able to work out new contracts, how about guys like McGrady. If McGrady's contract were a year or 2 shorter he would be about 40 million dollars poorer. In the NBA you never know when you're going to suffer a catastrophic injury. Not saying I want another McGrady situation, but that's the risk.

Now if he is healthy then maybe he can work that last year and say, like Pierce, that he'll take less money the next year, but he wants more guarenteed years. That doens't take away the value of that 6th year. It gave him flexibility and security.

 

I am not saying it isn't a risk, it is.....but it may be one that a 25 year old Bosh is comfortable making.

DD

 

Well all the information we have is from the ESPN talking heads and random tweets. From guys like Broussard (who today picked us to get him btw) it sounds like he does have interest in us. We're just the 3rd option.

So if he does end up coming here its not because Toronto forced him to a team he didn't want to go to. They simply moved him down his list by not accepting certain offers. If he wants that 6th year, which despite what you say every indication seems to say that he does, then he'll have to at least on some level comply with Toronto.

That is of course unless they fold and take Beasely and Chalmers and just bow at Bosh's feet asking that they have mercy on them when they play during the year.

 

I will be able to in a couple of months.

Namely, every free agent who ends up taking up the rest of the Knicks' cap space. :grin:

 

LOL - you may have something there.

DD

 

Its a 30M risk. And while he's 25 now, he won't be in 5 years (He'll be 5 years older to be exact) and with a history of knee problems you don't think he would want to risk getting left on the NBA scrap heap when he could still be making some dough.

Man, I will kill myself if we have to relive the McGrady/Yao situation with Bosh. If we get him he better bring us a championship in years 1 and 2 so that I can potentially live with that pain.

 

4 years with that ETO......and I guess we shall see.

DD

 

If he signs here it was because he ultimately wanted to. Nobody forces you to take 120 million dollars. If he takes it here? Then he ultimately wanted to. Making his decision easier is all the Rockets can do. The other teams might not give him the same options of level of money he wants. Even if he wants them to super really really bad. He can choose that too.

 

Why not? Tell me how many free agents in their prime sacrifice guaranteed money to be in a better situation?

 

Lebron
D. Wade
Dirk
Pierce
Amare
Bosh

Just to name a few of the guys that opted out this year to get a better situation.

They sacrificed this next year of GUARANTEED money to get a longer term deal with even more money.....that is entirely my point....opting out can more than equalize that loss of the last year of a contract.

DD

 

It is about his want. We want to give it to him. The others are the ones forcing him to choose less money. They dont have the SNT that Toronto wants and so they are forcing his hands and not us. if they just gave it to him? He and Wade would be in Chicago. If Lebron took lees money? He would be in Miami next to Lebron and Wade. We are not forcing him to do anything. We havent even gotten a 2 hour presentation. He can choose us and 120 million dollars or take less to Chicago and make it easy. Team up in Miami for a duo and a little rebuilding. Those are all his choices. Thats what they are. We didnt set them. We gave him the money. Or will if he wants it.

 

Seriously, DD. You seem like a reasonable person. Let's not make this any uglier than it has to. Just admit you're wrong and that money matters.

Your entire argument has been reduced to

Pierce opting out of $21 mil guaranteed for $80 mil guaranteed
=
Bosh opting out of $130 mil guaranteed, for $100 mil guaranteed

 

We cant make Toronto SNT to Chicago to help him get that 6 year max either and we cant make Toronto do it for Miami either. They are forcing his hands. Thats clear as day. We are sitting back with our hands on ourheads in a lawn chair with this huge pile of cash on our lawn just sitting there waiting for some smart younf 6'11 powerforward to come snatch it up. We are sipping Pina Coladas and watching these teams not do anything to match and just waiting to see if any smart young 26 year old 20 and 11 a night NBA players want to remove this money from Moreys front yard for us in a big bag and run off with it. Thats all Houston is doing. They will be cheering him on as he runs off with a ski mask on down the street with a big bag filled with our Rockets money.

 

When did Bosh get paid by $130M?

 

I am saying that this will not be Bosh's last contract and he will be in a similar situation going forward so the last guaranteed year probably doesn't matter as much to him.

At least that is how I see it.

DD

 

July 1st, 2010, 12:01 am, when Morey gazed his eyes upon Chris Bosh and gave him an ipad.

 

In fact the only team playing hardball i suspect are the Bulls. Thats exactly what the GM of the Bulls does his whole career. If he can get Wade and Bosh there and screw them doing it? He absolutely will. Thats the kind of GM he is to his players. Morey? If he can get you somwhere you want to go when you want to leave? He will try to accomodate the player like Tmac his whole career accomodating his every whim. The only people Morey tries to screw over are other GMs. Even then he gives them pretty good deals like Landry our teams heart and soul for Martin. Like the ability for the Knicks to do what they are doing right now with Amare. If anyone is playing hradball with Bosh's dreams? Its the Bulls or Toronto who wont bow down to that GMs demands. There is only so low one can bow for the Bulls to get wha they want though. Maybe the Raptors dont want to bend over that hard for them?