ESPN Broussard: Houston has a very good chance at Bosh

FYI, your "ETO after three years" angle doesn't even work under the current CBA.

http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm#Q50

 

You are correct, they can not do it after year 3 in a 5 year deal, it would have to be after year 4.

So, it does work, just one year later.

I stand corrected.

DD

 

The risk is huge. Would you bet $30 million against not getting injured over the next three years plus playoffs? I sure wouldn't.

 

Huh? Wow, you're the king at twisting things around. He merely reported that the players don't want anything else less than the 6 yr max.

Plus, this is put to bed since you were wrong about the opt out option. Nothing is guaranteed in four years and it's def not a "minimal risk". Ask Bonzi how it feels to lose out on millions of dollars.

 

Let alone the new cap figure and salary structure from the new bargaining agreement potentially that could take additional money away too.


I just said that to sound smart and pulled out of my... Whooooa!!!! Is that a guranteed 30 million dolars extra i see laying around?!!!!!

 

I think the answer to that is "It depends"......

Most of the time they chase the cash, but usually they do it in a place they desire.

Again, we shall see.

Didn't Amare just take a 5 year deal?

DD

 

Ya and that might end up being a big reach. Great pay day for a player that has had a micro fracture knee surgery.

 

You are basically twisting "A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush" into
"A $30 mil in hand isn't really worth more than potentially $29 mil in the bush".

How can anyone argue that point.

 

Maybe I'm misunderstanding you, but are you trying to justify adding salary this year just so that it will come off the books next summer?

A Traded Player Exception is better than an expiring contract. Period.

(Yes, I know that you can add expirings for trade purposes but can't do it with TPEs. But Toronto is not likely to add a max guy via trade next year.)

 

Sweet!! Just chill'n and found some superstar athletes money bag of 30 milllion dollars he just threw on the ground. Going to Walmart tomorrow and get that shiny toaster I wanted.

Athletes are so cool these days. That guy Sprewell totally left all this money on the street for me to grab up.

 

I am not twisting anything, I am saying that 6th guaranteed year is valuable, but may not be a deal killer because most of these guys opt out when they can anyway.

DD

 

Amare had no choice. Phoenix essentially renounced their rights to him the second they agreed to terms with Hakim Warrick. The sign-and-trade avenue was completely shut off.

 

Yes, but they were negotiating with him first, right?

Either way, all of this is silly...we are all just gonna have to wait and see what happens.

If Bosh says " I want to go to Miami with Wade"....I would bet a ton of money Toronto finds a SnT package they can live with from Miami.

To me, Bosh will decide...hopefully soon.

DD

 

Amare can't get a 6th year without bird rights. Phoenix renounced his rights to release the cap hold on their cap space to sign Warrick. Amare was left with no possible way to get the 6th year.

 

Actually, DD, that sixth year gives the player a TON of leverage when deciding whether to opt out, even if the player wants to opt out.

Look at Paul Pierce as a good example of this. He was slated to make over $21M next season with the Celtics. However, he had an ETO and decided to instead opt out and enter into a four-year deal at a lower starting salary in order to stay in Boston. The trade-off of alleviating the Celtics' 2010-11 salary cap situation served him well in pre-July 1 negotiations with the team.

That sixth year represents a ton of money AND leverage on an extension.

Also, I seriously doubt that the new CBA will allow for $26M salaries all too often.

 

Amare wouldnt have gotten it anyways. He was no longer worth a 6 year deal. As sometimes happens after 3 years in the league. Tomorrow if Wade gets in crash like that rookie football player for the Giants? He wont get any offers near max again in his life if he messes up his legs or back. Bosh can get money elsewhere but why would you want to make a case for him? It wont help the Rockets if they find a sliver of hope somewhere else to get this fantasy trio done. In fact you might never see a Championship again if Lebron, Wade, and Bosh somehow get all max contracts somewhere else and one of you helped them find the way to do it. Well? Not for a couple of years at least when they start declining. Unless Kobe is just that freaking inhuman for all these years coming up?

 

But the deal was better for Pierce as he got more $$$$ than if he just played it out.

And I am not so sure about the CBA, while I think it may be harsh, the owners have caved in or allowed loop holes every single time.

All happened AFTER Amare broke off talks....he was not that concerned about the 6th year or he would not have broken off talks....

DD

 

If it's all silly, why are we here?

 

30 million dollars is a huge deal and leverage to me. 6 years is a huge deal. If Joe Johnsons agent got him 6 years and Bosh, Lebrons, and Wades agent all got them less and less money? Guess what? I am thinking of firing my agent if I am Wade or Bosh.

 

Just waiting for the madness to end, I guess.

The players make the choice, not the agents, the agents work for the players.

DD