ESPN Broussard: Houston has a very good chance at Bosh

I wonder about this, too.. Like if we go on the discussion boards for those teams, are there fans all getting worked up just like we are??

One good sign, is that houston has been explicitly mentioned on the tele with regards to S&T, although obviously the teams with cap room get all the attention.

 

Again, you DON'T KNOW what he will or won't do.

Come on, now, let's cut the "I know what Chris Bosh will do" stuff.

None of us KNOW...we are all just hoping.

But you are speaking like you have inside knowledge or know something for a fact, and you don't.

Neither do I...lol.

DD

 

And I never read anything about those other teams having any kind of meeting with him, 20 mins or not....

 

They need to jump on that Deng deal. Shoot Deng and Hedo locked up in inmovable contracts for at least three more years of that tough stuff? They will be rolling in first round picks and the number one draft selection chances. Actually thats not a bad idea. Tank with Hedo and Deng for 4 years and get the number one draft pick or top 5 every year for those 4 years and then field guys that will leave 5 years later in each year after their first contract is up. Not too shabby.

 

Scola, Battier and some combination of picks. Battier could be easily moved down the road by Toronto to a team like Portland for some young players (ie.Fernandez).

 

You could swap Jeffries's expiring contract in for Ariza's, but my guess would be that Budinger would then need to be included. You could then take out, say, Mike Harris from the deal.

Toronto doesn't have any need for expiring contracts, so Jeffries has little allure to them.

 

Look for the obvious franchise killing reasons I mocked above Toronto wont accept Deng back in any deal just to get something back for Bosh. They just wont. Its Noah or Noah Bosh for Chicago. Its Miami and Wade with Bosh and some scrubs onto their first round Exit to Celtics or Magic. Or its sunny days with the Rockets and 120 million dollars. I am glad i dont have that decision because I wouldnt go somewhere I hate to be for 120 million dollars and be happy unless i had 120 million dollars to keep me company. Waite.... Nevermind. Or he could take less and be a pros pro and try to win it all and risk the money at the end of his career? That would actually be refreshing for once these days for athletes to take less again like in the old days to win Championships. I cant fault a man for that. Although it would feel slighting to me as a Rockets fan to accept less to go somewhere else. Not that much though to win a Championship. Thats a honorable reason at least to pass us up.

 

I'm sure he'll just accept an offer "he can live with". Your statement is not logical.

Everything I said is common sense. For the millionth time, Colangelo won't accept an offer that isn't as good as ours.

I don't have any inside info but I know that our offer is currently superior or a deal would have already went down.

 

I do know a little bit. During the post draft luncheon with Daryl Morey, my friend asked Morey (i) whether he knew what it would take to get Bosh (or at that time, he who could not be named), and (ii) if so, what is it. The context of the question was clearly asking whether he had exploratory discussions with Coangelo, and whether he knew what it would take and what it is.

Morey's reaction was interesting. He smiled and chuckled at the question a little bit, and he said, "umm, yeah.....I can't tell you what it is." The "umm yeah" part, could be construed as filler or a veiled way of saying, I can't believe this guy is asking me this. However, objectively speaking, it seemed to me that Morey clearly knew what it would take.

My guess is that Morey had extensive discussions with Coangelo well before the free agency period began, and basically prenegotiated a package. Both are excellent GM's. Coangelo would have had extensive discussions with Riley and Reinsdorf and all the other GM's, so he knew what their SnT offers were.

Now, I leave room for the possibility that some or all of the GM's have since sweetened the pot, but all the possibilities have been covered. Coangelo and DM both know what the bottom line is, and I have no doubt that Morey has made a godfather offer to Coangelo.

 

Again, you have NO idea what Colangelo will or will not take.

He might take draft picks, he might actually like Beasley, you really don't know.

None of us do....so let's please stop saying things in definitive form, because it is all a joke until BOSH says where he wants to go.

DD

 

I am CERTAIN that Morey knows.....lol

That is not in question....my point is that Bosh will be the one deciding...no one else..

Even if Toronto can act like they will let him go without a sign and trade, it NEVER happens, they always get the best deal they can...because they don't want to be left with nothing.

GMs and Owners always cave.

DD

 

Now this is interesting.

Wade n Boozer aing a bad pair. Let's say Wade tells Miami that he prefers Bosh, but Boozer is ok.

Is Miami concerned that Bosh heads to Chicago if Lebron signs there? If so, why not lock up plan B.

 

The news about Miami looking into sign and trades with other teams is only good news for the Rockets.

Seems like, little by little, the Rockets chances increase. Might take another week to get to 100%, but we're headed in the right direction.

 

If Miami gets Boozer than that's huge for the Rockets with Bosh. Miami is out of the Bosh race, and I don't see the Bulls getting BOTH LeBron and Bosh because they can't get the full 2 max contracts. That would leave LeBron back in Cleveland or going to the Bulls with someone like Lee.

Miami is the biggest threat to the Rockets for Bosh's services. If Miami locks up someone else, that's great for the Rockets!

 

There is when i agree with you. They will take Beasley most likely and Miamis offer of draft pick back and maybe another filler. Miami has a sign and trade they can do. They will also have nothing but Wade and Bosh and an empty arena filled with 10 minimum salary NBA players. They might have enough to get to the first round their first year and maybe in a year or twobuild to a Championship? They wont be Championship bound in Miami though like they want to be and they will still be building. The best path for Wade is Chicago and a team that can win with some depth and maybe Boozer for a little less than Bosh and he has a good chance there to win it all. Then Bosh coming here and having a good chance to win it all and get the max contract too. They want Lebron to accept less to play on their team and Bosh want to go to Chicago but wont accept less than a 6 year max to do it. So either Bosh has to take 30 million dollars to make his dream come true? Or I just dont see it happening. So Bosh needs to go to Miami and Lebron and needs to earn less than Wade and Bosh for it to work that way too. Those are the only ways. One of them isnt getting paid or one of they do it they all go their seperate ways. Thats the only way for it to happen.

 

Exactly. You realize what this means? It means I have to pull for Carlos Boozer for the first time ever...

 

Heck, Boozer wouldn't expect the max, imo, which would certainly help Miami.

 

If this was the case, he would already landed in Chicago or Miami. Cleveland isn't engaging in a SnT with Lebron and Toronto will do the same if Chicago or Miami don't sweeten the deal. They want Noah.

I would go all in on the notion that they don't want Beasley has the centerpiece of the trade. They better step up their game or Bosh will have no choice but to sign with the Rockets.

Anyways, we have to wait for Lebron's and Wade's decision. A lot could change if Wade chooses Chicago.

 

This is really interesting. Both Wade and Bosh want the 130M. Wade can get it if he just resigns and then Bosh comes to Miami through a SNT. However Miami has nothing to offer, or at least not as good of offers as Hou or Chi. That and it would be 2 all stars and a bunch of scrubs.

Chicago of course has the better team to offer with Noah and Rose, but both Wade and Bosh would have to do separate SNT. Even if Chi gave up Noah for one of them, neither Tor nor Mia wants Deng for the other.

IMO I think Wade and Bosh both want 130M and to play together in Chicago with Rose and Noah. However they are finding out that this is just about impossible and are currently having their agents look at every possible avenue to get it done.

So it looks like those guys will have to take Amare type deals to play together in Chicago. If they're not willing then it comes down to how much hardball the Raptors want to play. I am confident a Houston package is better than anything anyone else can put together.

If Bosh is not willing to take less than 130M and Toronto refuses to budge from the best available package of talent, then Houston looks to be in a decent position.

 

I'm glad Coangelo is in the hotseat in Toronto, rather than Kahn or some other idiot GM.

If there's a godfather offer on the table from Morey, I can see him calling Bosh's bluff and say you can leave 30MM on the table and sign with Miami, or get the SnT max with houston. you choose.

The fact that Miami will be a marginal team for a few years won't help. Nor will the fact that Miami has no center.

If, and it's a big if, Coangelo plays it this way, I honestly don't know what Bosh would do. If he wants money, it's Houston all the way. Not only is there 30MM more in guaranteed salary, he has Yao's entree into Asia. And he has a shot at winning big in Houston, particularly after Phil Jackson hangs it up after next year. At that point, the West will be wide open.