[ESPN]Bosh's wish list of teams[Updated: Bosh agent claims list not complete]

How is it a stupid question?

Myth: Bosh can do everything Scola does but BETTER

Rebounding:

Bosh:
Career offensive rebounding avg: 2.7 Per 36 mins: 2.6
Career defensive rebounding avg: 6.7 Per 36 mins: 6.5

Career ORB%: 8.5
Career DRB%: 21.4

Scola:
Career offensive rebounding avg: 2.2 Per 36 mins: 2.8
Career offensive rebounding avg: 5.7 Per 36 mins: 7.0

Career ORB%: 8.9
Career DRB%: 22.3

Blocks:

Bosh wins hands down here. Bosh's one block a game will always beat Scola's .2 blocks a game any way you cut it.

Shooting:

Bosh:

Career FG%: 49.2%
Career FT%: 79.6%

Scola:

Career FG%: 51.9%
Career FT%: 73.8%

I can go on and on but here's the links for their stats: Chris Bosh and Luis Scola

Bosh scores more points but to compare a guy that's the focal point of an offense to a guy that's NOT the focal point of an offense, the PER 36 minutes numbers in terms of points per game is a bit underwhelming.


Myth #2: Bosh can add some defensive length.

I'll admit that I don't watch Raptors basketball games the past 7 years but I've never heard anyone ever say, "Chris Bosh plays both ends of the court very well" or "I tell ya what, Bosh is one heck of a defensive player".

Again, don't get me wrong, I DID say that length/height is the one definitive advantage he has over Scola but for a guy that's 1 inch taller (and whatever his wingspan may be), he's not doing much better than Scola is. If win shares is your cup of tea, check those links and see how close their numbers are.

I'm sure if you take your original comparison--LeBron James versus Joe Johnson--you can see clear-cut numbers that no one can ever disagree to who is the better player. But look at the numbers for Bosh and Scola, there's not THAT much of a difference where I can say "Yea, Bosh is definitely worth twice as much as Scola in terms of salary due to his production".

If the Rockets land Bosh and keep Scola, it just solidifies our power forward position moreso and gives the team more flexibility in matchups. But to think Bosh is going to come in here and be infinitely better than Scola, then those people are going to be in for a rude awakening.

 

thank you for bringing some sense to this forum wow, great post

 

http://bit.ly/a3iVEi

Agent says there is no list...

 

Deny, deny, deny.

In all honesty, it's quite perplexing how these superstar free agents that everyone wants to get their hands on are all sitting at home because they either couldn't get their teams to the playoffs or were eliminated early on. Or had a teammate boink his mom.

 

steddinotayto can i make that last post my sig for all these ignorant people that think bosh makes us so much better

the key to this team competing next year for a ring is a healthy yao ming like it or not people, is our true matchup nightmare, defensive enforcer, not some guy that will come in here and dunk while luis would do a scoop shot lay up

 

Ding, Ding, Ding!!!!!

I am a "superstar". Good post, mate.

 

The raptors GM Colangelo has confirmed the list.

http://www.thestar.com/sports/baske...-bosh-s-wish-list-bulls-lakers-heat-or-knicks

 

So Colangelo is saying the Raptors is a team that Bosh would like to be traded to? The writings been on the wall for two years, Bryan--you're not going to keep Chris in Toronto.

"Here's what we'll do, Chris: Instead of keeping salary cap room for 2010, we'll use it to sign Hedo Turkoglu. HEDO. MOTHER. *****IN. TURKOGLU! Sure giving Paul Millsap the same contract would have make tons more sense but, hey, Hedo is from one of those Euro countries. You like those Euro guys don't you?"

 

Never beg a player to take 70 million from you. As to the list, he's clearly comfortable with being a sidekick, which automatically lowers my interest in him. You want your big dog to have pride. Not too much pride, but certainly enough for them to want the ball when the game is on the line.

And plan B is patience.

And thank God Morey won't overreact, like other general managers would.

 

Ooh ESPN...

 

Comparing those numbers is pretty irrelevant for three reasons. Number one is that Bosh is several years younger than Scola and has yet to enter his basketball prime while Scola will not be getting much better from this point forward. Second reason is that Scola's productivity numbers are inflated by Yao's absence and the use of the smallest, no offensive ability having starting center in the history of basketball. Third reason is that Bosh's numbers are from a number one option, the focal point of their offense and not a number 2/3/4 option like Scola. You could have traded Scola instead of Landry and the Rockets would have finished the season with the same record. It's easier to replace Scola, not just from a talent standpoint, but from the standpoint of how he fits into the offense as a complement rather than the main cog.

 

Bosh has had D Wade as his top 2 friend for the past month. I knew he wanted to play in Miami. I dont know why all of you were acting like it was a done deal him coming to Houston.

He hates us. Notice he has erased all tweets from Houston fans. Try posting one, he will take you off his list. He must have been raped in Dallas as a kid because he is scared to death of Texas.

I know he wants abig market, or great team, but damn,he even blew off Dallas. Dude has serious issues with TX.

Morey is going after Cousins as a center and possibly Rubio. Morey mentioned several months ago he like Cousins in some interview I think with SImmons.

Bosh = primadonna. He thinks he is funny on youtube, he isnt, he thinks he is goodlooking when in fact he scared little kids, and he thinks hes a number 1 option, wow. Oh, and an Insider with Raptors says his injuries are a MESS.

I started a thread saying all the allstars in NbA now are acting like primadonnas,and wont come to Houston. They want the limelight of big media espn likes.

Im not sure how Morey is going to build a championship with allstars in the NBA not putting Houston on the list.

Seriously. I think its time to think about letting Yao walk. Next summer, Battier/Yao/Jeffries/ along with Anderson,Hamilton,Scola,Lowry let them all walk and you have HUGE cap space next summer. Im sure Morey knows this. Dont tell me a injured Yao is this teams "win now" scenario. Child Please.

Time to rebuild and start from scratch. That means a couple of crappy seasons to get a stud in the draft. Thats the only way. Quit saying "morey has magic" or "this team can win the title". Get a clue. No other fans even want to touch Yao. I say go after Durant with huge cap space next summer.

 

and oh, I wanted Bosh to have a chance at title but if the raptors are right about his knees,thank god he isnt coming here.

I think Morey would have done the trade, only to be stuck with 2 injury prone stars(bosh/yao) all over again.

I think this is a blessing in disguise.

The word on Bosh the last 2 season, he plays great out of the gate, then halfway through season he tires/gets sore/sits out because of knees. Tmac 2.0

I say get Cousins or Favors, and run with Jordan Hill,Cousins for the future.

And oh, go after Granger to play small forward. He is MUCH more valuable than Bosh. The best kept secrets in NBA, Granger and Brook Lopez. Either one Id trade Yao for.

 

So . . .we cannot attract a All Star
so
we let our only allstar go . . .

Rocket River

 

[sun-sentinel.com] Agent of Bosh says the team list is not complete

Knee-jerk reflex in full action.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/...-chris-bosh-s052110,0,4558949.story?track=rss

 

In my original post I did say youth was an advantage that Scola doesn't have. As far as Bosh entering the prime of his career, how long do you think he'll be in his "prime"? Take a look at some of other All-Star power forwards over the years that Chris compares similarly to (e.g. perimeter shooting 4):

Dirk Nowitzki
Chris Webber
Kevin Garnett
Antawn Jamison

As you can see for yourself, all 4 players had their best seasons at the age of 27. If we land Bosh, he'll be 26. So lets say he'll continue from where he left off this season for 2010-2011 and have a monster season in 11-12. At the age of 28, the players above starts their slide. So, in essence, we'll be getting Bosh at the right time in his career but that 3 year window where Bosh can carry a team has quite a few factors that will effect how he and the Rockets will fare. That's why I'm a supporter of signing Bosh to a 3-4 year deal as opposed to giving him max years.

Am I too worried about Bosh only having a 3 year window for "prime seasons"? Not really considering this team might be very good with him next season, but I doubt we will be a definitive contender.

How is it inflated? The year where he started next to Yao (last year) was his best season statistically so your theory that his number are inflated by Yao not being their is offbase. If anything, Scola just proves to be very consistent--with or without Yao.

Bosh is the focal point, and as such, he commands the attention of the opposing offense. Of course, this means that he has to take more shots and has to "do" more. Do you really think that Adelman would revamp his entire offense around Bosh? His offenses has been catered towards the players that he has on his roster (e.g. giving Ariza the green light to chuck at the beginning of this season), without prejudice to any player. With Yao coming back as a dominant post player and Kevin Martin getting to the line an extraordinary amount of time, Bosh, at best, will replicate numbers similar to Webber's when Adelman was in Sacramento. I say at best is because a Rockets team with Bosh definitely has more offensive firepower than any Sacramento team Adelman ever had. In other words, Bosh being the focal point on a Toronto team and mustering a True Shooting Percentage that's only higher by percentage points compared to Scola's is kind of disheartening, seeing how True Shooting Percentage also takes into account free throws (where Bosh shoots twice as many FTs).

 

You would think that ESPN would have included at least ONE Texas team with their report right?

 

[rquoter]Raptors general manager Bryan Colangelo admits there are a group of teams that Bosh would like to go to should he decide to leave the Raptors as a free agent in July.

ESPN.com reported Bosh’s agent, Henry Thomas, has told Colangelo that Bosh would like to go to the Chicago Bulls, Los Angeles Lakers, Miami Heat or New York Knicks should he decide not to re-sign with Toronto.

“It has been narrowed down to a handful of teams, including us,” Colangelo said, not going into any more details.[/rquoter]

http://www.thestar.com/sports/baske...-bosh-s-wish-list-bulls-lakers-heat-or-knicks

 

I hope the owners force the player's association to accept a franchise tag. The NBA has become a joke, because players have too much power, and it's gone to their heads.

 

I would believe direct quote from his agent, Henry Thomas:

However this quote from Raptor GM only say Bosh narrowing down the list while didn't mention which team. Only ESPN has reported which teams from a "credible" source,

Perhaps the Raptors GM purposely leaked some info to make teams bet higher for Bosh.