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[ESPN] Adelman says McGrady isn't close

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by durvasa, Nov 10, 2009.

  1. across110thstreet

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    what's even better is that a Rockets Fan can't make a positive comment about the players on the team without becoming the subject of a roasting by his fellow (Rocket Fan) posters.
     
  2. Angkor Wat

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    Whenever the Rockets let him play, he will be ready. I just think T-Mac is anxious to get out there and help our guys.
     
  3. sirbaihu

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    Ha ha. Sounds to me like Adelman is busting T-Mac's ass to work hard on the floor: not necessarily an injury problem at all; could also be an effort problem. I think the same thing could have been said about McGrady when he was healthy.

    "He's been able to practice and doesn't have the pain he had last year," Rockets coach Rick Adelman said Tuesday. "He still has a long ways to go as far as running the court and moving defensively."
     
  4. Dave_78

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    I doubt the coach was talking about him being Orlando Tmac. More likely, the quickness he was referring to was what McGrady had before last season. For Adelman to specifically point out his lack of quickness and inability to run the court tells me McGrady is nowhere close. Are there two things more important for a SG than being able to run the court and move defensively?
     
  5. van chief

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    BS, if he had been training with Gorver, Grover, Cookie Monster, Big Bird or whoever in chicago he should be able to run up and down the court.
     
  6. MiddleMan

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    What is negative about the truth, meanwhile the insurance will continue to pay tmac's salary. He should be ready around the trade dateline ;) .
     
  7. MiddleMan

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    Those game will happen, its a learning experience for our squad. We have to move foward to the next game and not let any distractions interfere with our progress as a team.
     
  8. durvasa

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    http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/bk/bkn/6714455.html

    [rquoter]
    Coach sets no timetable

    With Tracy McGrady targeting Nov. 18 to return, a week earlier than the earliest the Rockets had in mind, Rockets coach Rick Adelman has no date in mind for McGrady's his season debut.

    “There is no timetable,” Adelman said. “Though it looks like there's been a lot of timetables out there the last day or so, there hasn't been for me.”

    Though McGrady said Tuesday he's in no rush to return, Adelman understands if McGrady is impatient.

    “The biggest thing in talking to him is he doesn't have the pain he had last year,” Adelman said. “He still has a long ways to go as far as running the court, moving, defensively, those types of things. The biggest thing in his mind is last year he had a definite limp. He does not have that. Coming off that (microfracture) surgery, you're not going to have that explosiveness. You're not going to have the quickness.”

    The Rockets also might not be as equipped as last season to adjust if McGrady needs to work his way back.

    “We are not the same team we were last year,” Adelman said. “We had Yao (Ming) and things we could fall back on and work him in, work him out. We don't have that capability this year. Anytime you throw any player in to the mix it's going to impact the team.”
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    So it looks like McGrady may be pain-free when he comes back, but his explosiveness is gone. And Adelman is concerned that, as a result, he won't be as effective and it will disrupt what the team is trying to do.

    Sounds to me like a November return is very unlikely.

    This also indicates why McGrady might have exaggerated how far along he is on Monday. He believes he's ready to step in right now, or at least he wants his fans to have that impression, so he's insisting that he's ready but the Rockets just want to keep him out for whatever reason.
     
  9. durvasa

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    And a more optimistic take on McGrady's progress from Jonathan Feigen: :p

    http://blogs.chron.com/nba/2009/11/mavericks_121_rockets_103_rock.html

    [rquoter]
    There was a good development for the Rockets. Tracy McGrady apparently really is in pretty good shape.

    The way he was back-pedaling on Tuesday, he might be close to playing, after all.

    Actually, he did not say he was changing his story. He said on Tuesday that he never said he would return Nov. 18, but that he was 'targeting' Nov. 18.

    Rockets coach Rick Adelman, like Daryl Morey the night before, said there is no timetable. No one seems to think McGrady has gone through practices without limitations as he said he has in his blog.

    Basically, he looks fantastic for a guy that had microfracture surgery eight months ago, pretty bad for Tracy McGrady. As with the Rockets plan to bring him back, nothing has changed. [/rquoter]
     
  10. Francis3422

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    I am tired of this whole thing. If McGrady is honestly so stupid as to think he can just waltz back onto the court and not play defense or have to hustle he is dead wrong.

    I find it interesting he has said he is ready, and then Adelman specifically sites "running the court" and "defensive movements".
     
  11. BizzleRocket

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    Well at least when he comes back, His apologists can't say LOL, HE WASN'T HEALTHY, LET'S GIVE HIM A 10TH TRY.
     
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  12. RocketRaccoon

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    If Tracy is pain free and Adelman is keeping him out for his lack of explosiveness, then one could guess that Tracy will never see the court. Unless his lack of explosiveness is only temporary...but it doesn't read that way.
     
  13. mgraye2969

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    Some info about microfracture knee surgery...

    Use in professional sports
    There have been many notable professional athletes who have undergone the procedure. Partially because of the high level of stress placed on the knees by these athletes, the surgery is not a panacea and results have been mixed. Many players' careers effectively end despite the surgery. However, some players such as Jason Kidd, Steve Yzerman, John Stockton, Kenyon Martin, Antonio McDyess and Zach Randolph [2] have been able to return at or near their pre-surgery form while players Brian Grant, Chris Webber, Allan Houston and Penny Hardaway never regained their old form. Others such as Jamal Mashburn and Terrell Brandon never recovered and retired. Portland Trail Blazers rookie Greg Oden underwent the procedure in early September 2007 and missed the entire 2007-2008 NBA season. At only 19 at the time of the surgery, doctors are confident that he will return to at or near full strength by the 2008-2009 season.[B] Rockets Superstar Tracy McGrady also under went microfracture surgery, doctors are confident that the 2 time scoring champion will return to full strength.[19]

    In October 2005, young star Amare Stoudemire of the NBA's Phoenix Suns underwent one of the highest-profile microfracture surgeries to date. He returned to the court in March 2006 and initially appeared to have made a full recovery, but subsequently started feeling stiffness in both knees (his right knee had been overcompensating for the injured left knee). He and the team doctor decided he needed more time to rehab and he did not return until the 2006-2007 NBA season.[20] During the 2006-2007 season, Stoudemire returned to form, averaging 20.4 points and 9.6 rebounds per game while playing in all 82 regular-season games and the 2007 NBA All-Star Game. His recent success has brought positive publicity to the procedure, further distancing it from a previous reputation as a possible "career death sentence" in the sports world, though he was one of the youngest of the aforementioned players to undergo the surgery. [21]

    [edit] Recovery
    Current studies have shown a success rate of 75 to 80 percent among patients 45 years of age or younger, even among professional athletes.[9][11] With the help of physical therapy, patients can often return to sports (or other intense activities) in about four months. However, this is a best-case scenario and depends on the severity of the cartilage damage (and any other conditions existing in the knee). Normal patients and professional athletes who play at the highest level however are quite different, as Chris Webber, who underwent the surgery, has stated that a full recovery in four months is nearly impossible. Webber returned to the NBA eight months after his surgery but was never the same.[22] Microfracture surgery itself is relatively minor. It is an outpatient procedure and causes only small discomfort. The harder part is the restrictions that are placed on the patient during the post-operative recovery period. This can be a major challenge for many patients. For optimal re-growth of joint surface, the patients need to be very patient and also extremely cooperative. They usually need to be on crutches for four to six weeks (sometimes longer). Sometimes a brace is needed. This all depends on the size and/or location of the joint surface defect that is being repaired or regenerated. The patients are encouraged to spend approximately 6-8 hours a day on a CPM (Continuous Passive Motion) machine that helps with optimal re-growth of joint surface. Patients usually feel pretty good and think they can avoid these critically important steps, and even start running and jumping (or playing sports) before the internal aspects of the knee, and the joint surface, are ready.
     
  14. daywalker02

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    There won't be a next time. This is his last chance. Take it or leave it.
     
  15. DudeWah

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    I find it funny how feign keeps saying he hasn't been practicing, even though in the very first article it clearly says he has been practicing....
     
  16. t_mac1

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    again, tracy won't be back until they think he can play every game. he's done his rehab (his rehab was with grover). he just needs a ton of reps, and do it every day, and do it at a high level.

    we can't judge him until he's on the court. we're hearing way too many different things right now.
     
  17. eslate22

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    we went through this last year, tmac knows that he aint commin back unless hes 100% healthy, he doesnt want the media killin him again. sit him out until after thanksgiving
     
  18. Jeff Who

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    You are right. Can we just shut the hell up and wait. We are getting mixed signals as well. No wonder why fans are confused.
     
  19. durvasa

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    I've learned that things because a lot clearer once you ignore anything and everything that comes out of Tracy's mouth.
     
  20. Space Ghost

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    MeMac won't be back till next year. He might make it back for a few minutes in a game here and there, but he don't see him playing any significant time anytime soon.
     

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