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[ESPN 2] - Simmons Dissing the Texans

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Stack24, Sep 6, 2006.

  1. Nice Rollin

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    i agree with it
     
  2. MadMax

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    of course you do.

    where are you from, by the way?
     
  3. VesceySux

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    You're a Mets fan. Your opinion is therefore null and void.

    Y'know, it's articles like this that make me want to root like hell against Bush. Why can't they BOTH be good players? Why does one have to be better than the other? For that matter, how are they even comparable? This isn't like if Indy picked Leaf over Manning. Mario and Bush play two different positions. Heck, they play on the opposite sides of the ball, for crying out loud. But I guess bad pub for the Texans is better than no pub at all, right? :rolleyes:
     
  4. tierre_brown

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    So...does Bill Simmons just wake up hating Houston and think, "Hell, it's been one week since I wrote an anti-Houston column, what's relevant right now?" He doesn't have an original thought in his head; all just re-hashed stuff he feels he needs to regurgitate and put his own "I'm a casual fan, therefore I know everything" spin on it...
     
  5. JunkyardDwg

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    What a tired, insanely flawed argument.

    Why is Mario considered a project? It'll take time for Mario to adjust just like any other rookie, but his impact should be felt immediately if for nothing more than that he will free up his teammates around him.

    Casserly had nothing to do with drafting Mario. C'mon he was a lame duck. This was Kubiak's decision all the way. How obvious can that be.

    On paper, sure this looks bad for the Texans after passing on Reggie Bush. But if Kubiak is modeling Denver's system, then you can insert almost any running back in there and give them the potential to amass 1,000 yards.

    It's completely understandable and far from brainless. Shocking sure. But I think after that inital shock died down and people had time to think about it, it started to make more sense.

    Bush isn't a sure thing and neither is Williams. But I'm willing to bet Houston will have the first and last laugh when they show more success than NO. Reggie Bush could very well turn out to be Barry Sanders on the Lions.
     
  6. solid

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    I think he is right. It was a completely "boneheaded" decision so characteristic of Houston sports. I think they should have taken Young or Bush, I would have drafted Young who will likely be starting for the Titans soon and will have a better rookie season than Eli Manning did. The Texans will regret for years passing on Bush and Young. Just plain dumb.
     
  7. geeimsobored

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    thanks for the update nostradamus.
     
  8. Cannonball

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    And here I was thinking I was smart and original. :p
     
  9. YaozaMac

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    Wikipedia........His ESPN.com column, which started in 2001, is notable for its prodigious length and the irregularity with which it is written, as well as its extended analogies and references to pop culture (especially from the 1980s and 1990s). Simmons aims for humor in his columns, which are written from the perspective of a fan rather than an objective journalist.

    Simmons has earned a love/hate relationship with his readers, who often complain that he writes far too often about Boston-related topics and the NBA in general at the expense of other more popular sports. He recently announced that the FIFA World Cup piqued his interest in soccer, to the extent that he would choose an English Premier League team to follow; he selected Tottenham Hotspur. A native New Englander, Simmons is a passionate fan of the Boston Red Sox, New England Patriots, Holy Cross Crusaders, and Boston Celtics. He also passionately roots against certain teams, specifically the New York Yankees, Boston College Eagles, Indianapolis Colts, and Los Angeles Lakers. He moved to Los Angeles at the end of 2002, and is currently a Los Angeles Clippers season ticket holder.


    We can get revenge when the Rockets monkey-rape the Clippers this season.

    If Lundy/Morency produce and S. Mario makes his teamates on the d-line better and develops into a good/great player we come out ahead regardless of what Bush does.

    I agree with his view on the lakers and colts :mad:
     
  10. Nice Rollin

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    wali freakin lundy is the texans running back!!!

    bill simmons finally wrote something i agree with.
     
  11. Nice Rollin

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    i thought itwas all mcnairs decision. he didnt want a holdout right???
     
  12. solid

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    You are welcome. ;) And there will be more to follow.
     
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    Well, if you're going to repeat yourself unnecessarily, I'll just repeat myself unnecessarily as well:

    You're a Mets fan. Your opinion is therefore null and void.

    BTW:
    2005 Broncos rushing leader: Mike Anderson, 1,104 yards
    2004 Broncos rushing leader: Reuben Droughns, 1,240 yards
    2003 Broncos rushing leader: Clinton Portis, 1,591 yards
    2002 Broncos rushing leader: Clinton Portis, 1,508 yards
    2001 Broncos rushing leader: Terrell Davis, 701 yards
    2000 Broncos rushing leader: Mike Anderson, 1,487 yards
    1999 Broncos rushing leader: Olandis Gary, 1,159 yards
    1998 Broncos rushing leader: Terrell Davis, 2,008 yards
    1997 Broncos rushing leader: Terrell Davis, 1,750 yards
    1996 Broncos rushing leader: Terrell Davis, 1,538 yards

    So, in the past 10 years, only ONCE has the leading RB in Denver's system failed to break the 1,000-yard mark. The high and mighty draft positions of those runners:

    Mike Anderson - 6th round
    Reuben Droughns - 3rd round
    Clinton Portis - 2nd round
    Terrell Davis - 6th round
    Olandis Gary - 4th round

    The defense rests, your honor.
     
  14. The Cat

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    Bill Simmons may be funny, but he's an absolute idiot when it comes to actual sports analysis. It's hard to take anyone seriously who makes these over the top, dramatic statements basically acting like a player's career is set in stone before he's ever even taken a single step on a professional field. You'd think he would've learned from the Jay Willams over Yao fiasco (remember, he wasn't just predicting it, he guaranteed it - his words), but apparently not.

    Running back is the most irrelevant position in terms of talent of any in the NFL. Talent has a little to do with it, but by and large it all has to do with the system and environment the players are put in. imo, the Texans and their tandem of Lundy, Morency and Dayne will rush for more yards than the Saints with their precious Reggie.
     
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    One of the blessings of getting rid of Charlie Casserly has been the fact that his firing has made it easy to identify the idiots who aren't worth arguing over the draft with.

    Why?

    Because the first rabbit they pull out of their hat is "Casserly (a bad GM) drafted Mario, then they fired him. How dumb is that?". Not true. It was McNair and Kubiak's decision. Casserly had absolutely nothing to do with this team after the loss to San Fran to end the year.
     
  16. Baqui99

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    Careful Vecsey. Denver didn't have Chester Pitts, Zach Wiegart, and the 3 stooges blocking for them all those years.

    Off to bed...Sandy Leeds Corp Finance at 9:30A.
     
  17. The Cat

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    The Texans run blocking is fine, has been for years.

    There's a difference between pass blocking and run blocking.
     
  18. jgreen91

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    I agree with this article 100%. The Texans made a huge mistake.
     
  19. Coach AI

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    1. Baqui's right in not getting too caught up in 'Denver's System'. We don't have the same players in that system that Denver does. That is a big, big deal.

    2. IMO Mario will be fine. But you guys need to lay off the 'well he'll free others up' crutch. A good, star DE will 'free others up' and still get his great numbers. And for the #1 pick, I should hope Mario will do the same.
     
  20. robbie380

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    well good...that really proves your level of sports analysis. stick to the hype machine.

    did you think yao was a bad pick since that's what the whole media was saying? I will bet yes....actually I will bet you won't admit it if you thought it was bad.
     

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