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Enron Trial to start on Monday

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by bigtexxx, Jan 28, 2006.

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  1. bigtexxx

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    Kinda like OJ, but without the 2 years?
     
  2. Rocket River

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    I seriously doubt they get two years
    At worse OJ damaged 3 families
    how many did these guys wreck?

    Rocket River
    evil is evil is evil
     
  3. Mr. Brightside

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    If not for Ken Lay, how many people would have even had jobs in the first place. He is an innovator and a legend.
     
  4. Rocketman95

    Rocketman95 Hangout Boy

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    At worst he damaged three families? What Lay and Skilling allegedly did was horrible, no doubt about it. But they didn't take the knife to two people's throats.
     
  5. FranchiseBlade

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    This is a joke right? It probably is, but my sarcasm meter may be defective so I will answer as if it was said in all seriousness.

    Was Enron a kind of charity workplace that hired people who couldn't find work any other place? Are you saying that those who lost their savings due to the corruption at Enron should be happy that they made a living for the years they worked there? Are you saying that they haven't been able to find work since then, and couldn't have found any work at that time except at Enron? The benevolent Ken Lay hired these otherwise unemployables and gave meaning to their lives?
     
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    No, its not a joke. Enron made alot of people alot of money, me included. If the employees couldn't see a failing workplace, they should be at fault. Enron made Houston a great city. Ken Lay has done many good things for the people of Houston before the collapse of Enron and after.
     
  7. Master Baiter

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    I seriously hope this is a joke.
     
  8. Icehouse

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    If they are found guilty then they should go to the "real" prison system. It makes no sense that one could ruin that many lives, yet get off easier than someone selling a bag of weed....

    Chappelle was right on in his season 2 parody...
     
  9. Rocket River

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    I guess that guy that blew his head off doesn't count

    Evil is Evil no doubt
    comparing evil will resolve nothing
    because at the end of the day
    Justice in America is bought and sold

    It all comes down to who pays their lawyers the most
    9 times out of 10

    Rocket River
     
  10. Icehouse

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    Doing great things doesn't mean you shouldn't be punished for the wrong things that you did (if he did them). I worked for Enron too, but it's not like that was my only good offer when I was looking for a job. I'm sure the majority of the other employees there could have worked anywhere else in their field.
     
  11. Master Baiter

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    one, two, three, fo, FIF!!!
     
  12. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    are federal prisons supposedly safer. i've heard they are and then sometimes you hear they aren't.
     
  13. macalu

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    i'm not gonna say Ken Lay is a saint, but i somewhat agree with you...especially about the "alot of money" part. Working at Enron meant you were making a good chunk of money. If you weren't careful enough with your money to save a good part of it, that's your fault.

    was it horrible what happened to Enron and it's employees? sure. but it's really no different if you were laid off unexpectedly. you can't work at some place and expect to be there forever. it's not your company, and you are expendable.

    and if you lived beyond your means, that's your problem. and please don't say these people can't find work anywhere else. even if it means a huge paycut, so be it.
     
  14. FranchiseBlade

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    If they were lied to about the condition of the companies health and finances it is their fault?

    I would think that it is common sense to blame the liar and not the person who was lied to.

    When the people who run the company are telling everyone that it is doing great and healthy, it isn't people's fault for trusting their employers. It is the employers fault for lying. The sad thing is that once it became apparent that it wasn't doing well, the money was frozen and couldn't be moved even though people wanted it to be moved, so despite people eventually seeing that it was a failing company there was little they could do about it.

    Hamas has done many good things for the poor, orphans etc. in the occupied territories, that doesn't mean they shouldn't be punished for what they have done wrong.
     
  15. Clutch

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    Wow... that's truly priceless.
     
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    Translation:

    For the PR bump, Lay donated to charity some small portion of the millons he made by defrauding investors, customers, and employees, but I'm okay with that because I made money.
     
  17. FranchiseBlade

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    The fact that they were saving it is what got them in trouble. The people were saving it in various Enron retirement plans which invested part of their paychecks in Enron in order to help with their retirement.

    Maybe they shouldn't have put it into Enron 401k's or similar programs, but Enron execs told them that it was safe there, and that it was a good investment. Looking at the stock performance it seemed that was indeed the case. They were evidently investing it wisely.

    They weren't broke because they lived beyond their means while working at Enron. They were broke because they saved for their retirement by investing in a company that they were told was on sound financial footing. They were lied to, and that isn't their fault at all.

    Some can certainly find other work. Some who had worked there for years and years and were retirement age, have been cheated out of money that was supposed to finance their retirement. They didn't lose it because they lived beyond their means. They lost it because they lied to and kept investing it based on fraudulent reports and statements by the execs at Enron.
     
  18. pgabriel

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    wasn't enron's retirement plan like most 401Ks, you could diversify your plan. everybody there got the greedy bug. I feel sorry for the people who were close to retirement, the young people should just take it as a lesson that you can't put supreme faith in your employer,

    but never keep all your eggs in one basket.
     
  19. Fatty FatBastard

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    OJ was aquitted of all charges. According to the law, he damaged 0 families.
     
  20. macalu

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    :( i agree then, that is quite sad.
     

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