you didn't make an argument. pocket passers get hurt, look what happened to Carson Palmer. Besides, Vick is irrelevant when it comes to young as far as injuries are concerned, Vick was injury prone in college. He's just fragile, not very big, yeah he's gonna have to embrace his passing ability sooner rather than later. But Vince has proven to be durable.
Were the 2004 Cal Bears better than the 2004 Longhorns? Retrospect is a pretty unequivocal no. So why would they deserve to be in the better bowl game? Just excuse yourself from all things UT. You ranted and raved about overrated this and that, how great a game A&M played against us, how we're just delusional fans- in the end, UT wins. I'm torn. I don't think we can go wrong either way. Both Vince and VY are transcendent players, imo - they completely redefine defensive schemes. If Carr could give you a decent return, it makes things more interesting. Of course, it also makes our trade possibilities juicier, and even our negotiations with agents a little different.
It doesnt matter who was better in the end. I am not a UT hater, i am a Vince Young hater though. He is a great player but i just dont see him being anywhere near bush IN THE NFL
I wasn't referring just to injuries, although obviously there will be more risk to QBs who run more. I remember the Falcon's wanting Vick to run less because of the injury risk. It's also the fact that running out of the pocket isn't as effective in the NFL. You can't just run around without blockers and not expect to get nailed. And on top of that the offense won't runner as smoothly if the QB runs out too much. A good passing offense often requires the QB to stay in the pocket until the last possible second. Not that Young won't be a good pocket passer. I think he will. But a lot of people are focusing on his running which won't be as big a factor in the NFL.
Yes he is a draft analyst, so why did he write an article on why Cal deserved it over UT? Then he was clearly wrong in his assessment. Not too impressive. Do you ever tire of calling folks here nuts, 'genius', idiot, ahole, or to **** yourself? Oh, I really enjoyed the one where you said some of the guys prob didn't go to college or have a job...I'm sure that really hurt their feelings. Are you here to meet other Rockets fans and discuss or just to dangle your wanker?
He is really is the quintessential Aggie who envies us(UT) every day. Nothing more nothing less. To keep his existence he called Vince "Radio" and will always think he sucks as a player because he played for us. In fact, if Vince didn't play at UT, he would be calling him an awesome pro prospect more likely than not. The funny thing is he actually talked good about Vince and his pro prospects soon after the Rose Bowl, but now his aggiedom has kicked back in high gear.
LOL, so who cares then? You hate, who cares. Some here love - big deal. I'm -- ostensibly, for lack of a another team, once the oilers left -- a Texans fan, not a VY or R.Bush hater. But, they haven't done sh-t, except for the inaugural game ever, to earn my loyalty yet. And I'll tell you what, if they pass on a hometown hero like VY (and I moved out of H-town 5 plus years ago) and he turns out to be good, then F- the texans. I know who the best non-pro player on earth was this year -- if they don't after 4 years of absolute mismanagement, then I don't have the time or the patience to wait to figure out who they think is. but oh yeah, Reggie McNeal in Round 3 in your wet dreams, well -- yeah, I forgot about that utopian scenario.....
I just dont want him for the texans. He sets us back to restart and I dont think he will be as good as bush. I wouldnt want leinart here either!
Hey I can't show some love for my guys like others do for Vince. A year ago he was the much bigger prospect so i think he has all sorts of untapped potential.
This is how I feel. If they blow this golden opportunity to galvanize the fans and get a tremendous prospect from the city, they might as well move again. It will be that devastating if they don't win soon after whoever they draft and Vince becomes a badass QB. What really bothers me is this draft is similar to the Vick/Tomlinson draft. Except that I personally think Vince is a slightly better prospect than Vick(bigger, smarter runner, with a better completion percentage than vick) and Bush a slightly worse prospect than LT(has to prove he can carry the ball as much as most NFL backs and running inside the tackles frequently). In that draft Vick was the clear cut number 1 pick. LT went 5th. Quite frankly, that is how it should happen this time, but the hype for reggie bush drastically exceeded anything LT got at TCU, influencing the draft order.
Oh yeah, he really ran all over this college defense. And notice that I said 'rush' in my previous post since if he's not effective as an RB in the pros that he's not worth a #1 pick (of course I expected you to mention the receiving yards...we'll get to that too though). His first 12 carries netted his team a whopping 56 yards, of which 18 came on one play. Wooo hooo, what's that awesome average...4.6? On his very last run, with a tad over 11 minutes remaining in the game and the D backs a bit winded and focusing on Leinart's passing and White's running, he was finally able to scamper for 26 to lift his average. The reason he was 'underused' was because he was shut down and White was running more effectively. As for his receiving yards, 26 came on the garbage play at the end with UT in prevent. So 5 catches for 69. Oh yeah, what a stunning performance. He had UT back on their heels ... he really took over and turned the game for SC. For one so quick to call others here idiots, maybe you should be a little more thoughtful when responding.
When you are 2-14, you are at restart. No other way around it. The texans aren't going to make the playoffs next year, so I take the best prospect to build around, in my honest opinion, it's Vince(all factors considered). Also, consider Bush and Davis are similar style backs, and unless you can put one in the slot every play(or play WR2 every down), you aren't getting the value you need out of the pick. Plus, Carr would fetch more in a trade easily than Davis would.
prospect doesn't mean crap until you prove it on the field...it only means that you haven't proven it yet. vince has...and then some. i hate this argument already. i can't stand these threads that i keep coming back to. i can't stand that the texans are even considering not drafting VY because of the almighty potential of reggie bush and david carr. i just threw up a little bit in my mouth.
no, no no..don't you know anything. reggie bush turns 2-14 teams into playoff contenders. nevermind the fact he didn't touch the ball during the most crucial moments for his team in COLLEGE football's championship. in the pros, he will absolutely turn them into a playoff contender...immediately. no...they really weren't even 2-14 this past season. their talent was sooooo awesome, they were really 7-9...just like last year. you remember...their best season ever. when they won 7 games. awesome!!!
What sucks is people think that the Texans can contend next year. I don't see it, the AFC is way too strong for that right now. Thus you take the best player available, all factors considered. That player is Vince. I can't tell you how pissed off I will be if they screw this up. You have a chance to get a great player to build around and GET A ROGER CLEMENS/ASTROS TYPE BUSINESS BOOM in the process. It's a no brainer, and like I said before, if the Texans don't turn it around fast and Vince goes elsewhere and is awesome, they will never live it down.
and i'll be done with them. i get pissed at the very prospect of this happening. but wait.....no.....this team will kill the pats and the colts with reggie. you're just not seeing it clearly. david carr is a pro-bowler and he just needed bush to remind him of it. he forgot, see. reggie is good at reminding. yeah.
