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Enough with this Vince Young jocking!

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by YaoMing, Jan 8, 2006.

  1. crose

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    Okay....thats it......no more arguments......I had no idea ALL the mock drafts had leinart and bush in front of VY......man, what were we thinking even debating this.....ALL of the mock drafts....geeeze...case closed!
     
  2. Cohen

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    FWIW...Kiper's that guy who was arguing for Cal in the 04 Rose Bowl over Texas ... (the Bears where then beat by Tech by 14).
     
  3. Cohen

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    Really...ALL of the mock drafts!

    D*mn.
     
  4. Cohen

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    Ahhh...the homerism argument that was presented w/o hesitation before the season... before the Rose Bowl and the National Championship...

    It's not just UT alums who think Vince is a reasonable #1 pick...that is...except ALL of the mock drafts.

    I think that it's funny that you think Bush is such a sure thing and will have such an immediate impact. UT was the first defense with speed at least somewhat similar to a pro defense and how many yards did he rush for? He will prob be good, but he won't run free like college and he will have to adjust to much faster, stronger Ds just like VY would.

    Make no mistake, I think any of the top 3 are good gambles, but your dismissal of VY is ridiculous.

    And you keep arguing conventional wisdom (mock drafts? :eek: ) as if it's fact and it is NOT*


    *See 'ROSE BOWL'
     
  5. crose

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    No one has brought up the fact that VY saved his best performance for the biggest game of the year. it is a crime that they choose the heisman before the end of the year. everyone was drooling over the reggie against fresno st. wtf. fresno st., the same team that lost to louisiana tech. are you kidding me. VY had his best when it mattered. but they probably dont take that into account in the almighty MOCK DRAFTS.
     
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    Kiper also had Babin as a late 1st rounder.
     
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    buttshell, I actually lean towards drafting Bush over Young....and even I think you're talking out of your ass.
     
  8. crose

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    buttshell is terrible!
     
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    LOL at the VY haters. Do you guys realize that his 6'5" and thick. The small backs of the NFL are not going to pop him. He played and still practiced with Derrick Johnson on of the best hitters in the league. Derrick said in an interview that VY is the hardest guy that he has ever tried to tackle. They both work together in the offseason, along with Steve McNair. Vince will be a great player in NFL. Bush and his lack of carries worries me much more.
     
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    Who cares if Vince is pretty big and a good runner? QUARTERBACK SNEAKS DONT WORK IN THE NFL!
     
  12. crose

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    why? is there a ban against them or something? what does work in the NFL? VY is going to write a whole new chapter to what does and does not work in the NFL! the guy is a born winner.
     
  13. Mr. Clutch

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    And what is Reggie Bush, a born loser? Why do people keep talking about Vince's heart and learship and will to win as if Reggie is lacking in that area?

    Good pocket passers work in the NFL. If Vince is going to succeed he is going to have to become an excellent pocket passer. Look what happened to Vick.
     
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    FOX26's Mark Berman just said city council made tomorrow (I think he said tomorrow) officially Vince Young Day here in Houston.
     
  15. crose

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    reggie is going to look great in a texans uniform, but VY is still the obvious choice here. why do people assume VY cant stay in the pocket? he could have stayed in the pocket alot more, and gotten alot less done, but he created when it was time to create. he has done things no other QB can lay claim to(2500/1000), and yet he still takes criticism for not being an effective passer. what more do you want from the guy...he only led the nation in passing efficiency. what more could you possibly want? would you have rather seen him more one dimensional? a pure passer, that didnt try to run? or would you rather see him win games with his arm and his feet, the way he di JAN 4? for an entire month pete carrol worked on a game plan to stop him, and didnt even come close. that coming from a guy who "masterminded" a 34- game win streak. VY ripped him. what more do you want from him? HE WON! every major play for USC, and reggie was on the sideline. why? not because he wasnt a badass, but because he wasnt the right badass at that time on a team full of badasses. reggie will be great, no doubt, but VY is going to terrorize the Texans twice a year for a long time.
     
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    yeah look what happened to Vick, he went to the playoffs twice, already been to the championship game and he's only twenty five.

    wouldn't want that to happen to the Texans.
     
  17. Mr. Clutch

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    I'm not saying Young can't stay in the pocket or isn't a great player. He is! But so is Reggie Bush! What more do you want from Reggie Bush? He ran, he caught, he returned kicks. He averaged OVER SEVEN YARDS A CARRY! Cadillac Williams didn't do that and he was tearing up the NFL his rookie year!

    Reggie would beat Vince in a race, so take Reggie!
     
  18. IC2000

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    so he is biased against ut :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

    you guys are nuts

    He is a freaking draft analyst!!! He could care less what team you play for. Cal deserved it, but mack brown cried on national tv
     
  19. Mr. Clutch

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    Are you deliberately twisting my arguments? You know Vick struggles in the pocket! That's what I was refering too. Vick is a very good player but he shows that you can't expect a running QB to run rougshod in the NFL.
     
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    13 carries 85 yards- 6.3 per carry ( they really shut him down)
    6 catches for 95 yards

    And he was underused! I guess they shut him down?/????
     

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