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Enough with this Vince Young jocking!

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by YaoMing, Jan 8, 2006.

  1. crose

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    VY has been better than everybody on every level he has played on. he was the kid that everyone wanted on their team in kickball. he was the kid who pissed off opposing soccer moms to the point where they threw their soccer mom sweaters in the garbage and forced their kids into piano lessons and ballet lessons, he was the kid that ran over pop warner. he was the kid who dominated highschool in anything he felt like, he was the kid who brought victory to TEXAS, and he is going to be the MAN in the NFL.

    he is used to success
    he is used to winning
    that just doesnt stop because someone thinks a throwing motion doesnt translate well in the NFL. he can throw with his face for all I care, as long as he wins, which he will find a way to.
    jump on, because this bandwagon aint stoppin until it reaches the HALL OF FAME!
     
  2. Hakeem06

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    look at pass attempts.... 250 as a sophomore with 11 picks, that's one interception every 22 attempts. 10 this year with 325 pass attempts, that's one every 32 attempts. that's a major improvement.
     
  3. aburttschell

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    Wow, arguing this is pointless.
     
  4. pgabriel

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    No kidding. :cool:
     
  5. aburttschell

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    I can now see the type of intelligence I'm dealing with.
     
  6. crose

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    give us some more akili smith comparisons. that was hillarious.

    c,mon...please!
     
  7. aburttschell

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    Actually this was the report on Akili...

    Regarded by many to be one of the finest athletes in college football...Has exceptional quickness when forced out of the pocket...Reminds scouts of Minnesota’s Randall Cunningham for his ability to improvise when the play breaks down & shows patience waiting for his secondary receivers to get open...Recently timed at 4.65 in the 40-yard dash...Equally accurate in both the short area & deep passing game...Can make the sideline throws & lays up the long ball with touch.


    I see quite a few comparisons to the two players.
     
  8. Mr. Clutch

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    LOL. Nice.
     
  9. crose

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    dude, you are always throwing the insuficient intelligence/maturity card.

    did you ever stop to think that maybe your opinions are shared by very few?
    you are responsible some of the most unintelligent "fodder" on this site. you can judge that by the onslaught of insult you just took. I mean, you really compared VY to akili smith. how does that happen?
     
  10. aburttschell

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    It takes little intelligence to know that the "onslaught" is being provided by Longhorn fans that take it as stab in the back if you say anything critical about Vince Young.
     
  11. Mr. Clutch

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    That's all we have to go on? What are you talking about? We have the rest of the college season.
     
  12. SamFisher

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    So, by googling this, I trust you are conceding you don't know f-k all about A. Smith in college, didn't watch him then (really, how could you? Do you live in Oregon or something?) and are kind of just of pulling it out of your ass retroactively. Because you made it sound as if you saw a whole hell of a lot of similarities. But if you didn't watch Smith in college, then your comparison crashes and burns.

    They both like hip hop and watch BET too. Don't forget that one abuttschell.

    But two can play at this game. Read the following scouting report for the Whizzinator:
    Quickness? Acceleration? Running wide? Kick returner? Reggie Bush = poor man's Onterrio Smith, just less proven. I know this by googling a scouting report, AND because they're black, Smith went to Oregon, and played in the Pac 10 too....................:rolleyes:
     
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    Actually the Rose Bowl well epitomizes Bush's and VY's careers for those who payed attention.

    Bush was a great 15-20 play player on a phenomenally gifted offensive team (minimum 4 1st round draftee skill players including Bush off USC, plus a great Oline). VY was a dominant and phenomenal player on a nearly as productive offense despite the entire defense trying to stop this one player every offensive snap.

    If the Heisman went to the best college football player or the most dominant college football player instead of the guy with the most amazing 10-20 highlights it would have gone to VY.
     
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    not quite sure where you got that scouting report from. i've seen his official 40 time as 4.7 by both cnn/si and espn. and to be compared to randall cunningham for rushing for a whopping 2.2 yards a carry in college with 4 rushing touchdowns is just befuddling.
     
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    Its a waste of time trying to talk to these people about vince young or anything related to UT. This is not the place to do it. Vince was an amazing college athlete, his skills don't look like they are going to translate into the NFL. He would be a huge project. Bush can come in right away and give some excitement and help us win games. I don't think Vince is worth the #1 pick, especially considering Reggie Bush is out there and we really don't need a QB. If Vince had not gone to UT or Madison there would be no argument for him to come here. Everybody would have been all for Bush. I mean, all mock drafts have Leinart and Bush in front of him.

    And to whoever said he dominated the ohio state game, that is simply wrong. He had 2 interceptions and possibly a fumble? That is not dominating a game.
     
  17. Hakeem06

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    no he didn't dominate that game but he still had 346 yards of total offense and despite those two picks, he showed unbelievable poise in one of the most difficult environments in all of college football to lead his team back to a VICTORY. he completed over 60% of his passes and threw for 260 yards against one of the nation's best defenses. the fact that he did throw two picks and still not get rattled and lose the game, proves his intangibles are some that are rarely seen at any level. he does have weaknesses but who doesn't?
     
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    But he'll likely be the second most elusive qb in the nfl. Hell, I think his YPC numbers in college were similar to Vick's.

    I'm sure there are qbs faster than Vince, but I don't know any that are more elusive.
     
  19. SamFisher

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    Unless you're Reggie McNeal, and then you can have games like that vs. inferior competition for years and still end up being a first day draft pick, and the steal of the draft at that, or so you say
     
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    I live on the West Coast and saw a lot of Akili Smith (on tv). I'm also a Bungle fan.

    Akili was a stud in college. He was very athletic and could really throw the ball too. I'd have to say that Vince is more athletic than him - but not as proven as a passer. No problem making comparison between Vince and Akili. Akili was a very highly-touted prospect and very few people questioned the Kitties using a 3rd overall pick on him.

    We really have no idea why he wasn't succesful in the NFL. He looked very promising his rookie year. Fact is - the Bengals were quite adept then at ruining young QBs (remember David Klingler?). I know he had problems making reads vs the more complex NFL schemes. In the Pac 10, guys always seemed wide open. Maybe he just didn't work hard enough. Young QBs on really bad teams have rarely fared well. I think Dave Shula was their coach back then for gawd's sakes.

    Reggie Bush did get more carries this year as opposed to last year. I had some questions last year about his durability - but do think he can be a feature back in the NFL. When you're returning kicks and sharing a backfield with Lendale White - why carry the ball 30+ time a game?

    I wouldn't take Vince or Reggie Bush with the first pick. The Texans have a lot of holes to plug up and maybe trading for quality and quantity would be best. It would lack the excitement or "star" appeal - but would help them more in the long run.
     

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