but how fair is that you use an interception that never happened to prove your point? This guy led the regular season in passer rating and the only reason he didn't end up leading it is because he ran for his touchdowns instead of passed. What more does the guy have to do?
I think everyone else commented on this nicely, I just want to add that VY won the game on running, and PASSING. He had good passing numbers as well.
How many times did he go downfield again? And how many tds did he throw for? At the end of the game he would look for a second for a WR then start running. This was a great idea in college because he was a superior athlete but will not work in the NFL. The offense he had in college is nothing like what he can run in the NFL. So it still remains to be seen if he will be effective, Bush will dominate even if he is a 15-20 touch guy in the NFL. He doesn't need the ball in his hands every play. Wells or Davis can compliment him.
you roll young out. roll him left...roll him right. play him exactly the way Elway was played. Kubiak would be great for that. bush will dominate the NFL? seriously, the absolutes here are getting silly. young isn't a sure thing. bush isn't either. there's no such thing. it doesn't exist. bush has questions. young has questions. there are probably less questions about leinart than anyone. but you take based on upside. what you think is possible.
I agree...you can't value the intangibles...Heart, competiveness and desire to be the best...The QB skills will come over time...
One thing that people are overlooking in the whole Young/Bush debate is the immediate nature of the situation. The Texans can't afford to draft somebody that will help them down the road. They don't have the luxury of waiting for a player to develop. They need somebody that can produce NOW. The fan base is constantly dwindling, and fans are getting tired of waiting for the team to get better. The more losing seasons there are, the less season ticket holders renew, and the longer it takes to get the fan base back. Which player will take less time to learn the offensive system? Which player will be less hampered by one of the worst offensive lines in the NFL? THAT'S the player you draft. Of course, it increasingly looks like it's a moot point, since Casserly already has his mind made up on taking Bush, according to most reports I've heard...
Not really. No one or two players will turn the Texans around to a winning record next year. No OL drafted in this years draft will dominate NFL veteren DL's next year. The Houston fanbase will gladly wait for Vince and it could strengthen their long term prospects ala Troy Aikman going 1-15 his first year.
Of course, there is one player that the majority of fans would wait on...Vince Young. The fan base is not in jeopardy with the choices they have in April. Unless they take Leinart.
max mentioned in one of these threads that the worst case scenario would be vy kicking our ass in a titans jersey. i would add, with leinart as our qb.
apostolic, the fact of the matter is that vince yound did WIN the national championship and is 30-2 as a starter with two rose bowl wins and 2 rose bowl mvp's to his credit. of course winning the national championship improved his stock, as it did when matt leinart won his national championships. to be a championship qb at any level is going to raise your stock, it proves you can win. because some ass clown gm's and scouts in the nfl may doubt his skills, he isn't going to be great? are those the same gms and scouts who let emmitt smith slide to the middle of the first round, drafted joe montana in the 3rd round, drafted the panthers steve smith in the 3rd round, drafted tom brady in the 6th or 7th round, etc. scouts and gm's make mistakes all the time, look at casserlie and the morons they have working for the texans.
We are 2-14 and just fired our coaches. I don't think most expect the Texans to compete next year (our schedule isn't easy and we don't play in the NFC). Fans will gladly wait 1-2 years if VY is drafted.
How many national championship gamewinning drives in soutern california against an "immortal" USC team that supposedly couldnt lose until VY reached up and @#%&$slapped the entire state of california to bring the title back to the state of TEXAS where it belongs snatching immortality from USC and putting TEXAS on top of the national mountain and allowing everyone in TEXAS the right to shove it right up the asses of every arrogant bandwagon USC fan further proving that TEXAS is where its at, did he lead. exactly. HOW CAN YOU BE SUCH A HATER WITH YOUR HEAD SO FAR UP YOUR ASS?
this is just like in the Rocket forum. I don't think everyone grasps the situation this franchise is in right now. they only won two games and lost to Frisco whom everyone thought was the worst team in the league. I wonder if people really realize how bad they were. I know they were close with some bad teams but the fact is they made horrible teams like Buffalo and Baltimore look like contenders and against the better teams had no shot except for the Cincinatti game. that's the only competitive game against a playoff team.
Please explain how Tommie Frazier, Akili Smith and Charlie Ward are like VY besides the fact that they are black. Thanks.
I would say Akili Smith is the best comparison. You just don't know if Young can throw the ball in the NFL.
