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Enough with this Vince Young jocking!

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by YaoMing, Jan 8, 2006.

  1. MadMax

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    damn, i forgot again.
     
  2. IC2000

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    They aren't saying the same about Vince? :confused:
     
  3. MadMax

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    ok...so cut every question against VY and give reggie the benefit of the doubt on every question. got it.
     
  4. IC2000

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    Are you talking about Vince or Reggie, you could insert either there, except switch QB with RB
     
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    One problem. Vince sat out the 4th quarter of his games routinely, even the 3rd quarter in some cases. So while Bush would have improved his stats, so would Vince.
     
  6. MadMax

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    no one compared him to gale sayers. they didn't run weeks of highlight footage next to some nfl great telling us how he was already being inducted into the NFL hall of fame.

    vince got his fame when it mattered most...AFTER the game. because he put up the results.
     
  7. IC2000

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    Don't you see its an argument? You take sides :eek:

    You do the same with Vince as i do with Reggie
     
  8. IC2000

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    This has nothing to do with what i am talking about, i appreciate the effort though
     
  9. Cohen

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    Try to follow the logic here.

    1. You claim he's a sure thing.
    2. The first 'real' defense he played against this year...and he was unimpressive. He wasn't even the best RB on his team.
    3. He also was not too impressive against several weak Ds.

    Conclusion: He's fast, has talent, he's no sure thing.
     
  10. MadMax

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    NO I DO NOT!!!

    i'll tell you right now VY isn't a sure thing. it's a risk either way. it always is. i'm telling you the upside with VY because it's Houston...because it's Texas...is far greater than it is with Bush. i'm saying it's worth the risk. and i don't see how you could let david carr get in the way of that possibility.
     
  11. IC2000

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    I was impressed in the UT game by Bush, Young, White , thomas and Jarrett

    Agree to disagree.

    I hope the texans agree with me
     
  12. DVauthrin

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    Are you living under a rock? If they were then Vince would not be behind Leinart and Bush on Kiper's draft board. They gave him credit, but they did not anoint him the best player in all of football this year, nor did they turn him into an all time great before he steps foot in the NFL. Not to mention, did an ESPN announcer compare Bush to any RB busts? No. But Merrill Hoge had the audacity to compare Vince to Ryan Freakin Leaf.
     
  13. Cohen

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    But you're the one saying Reggie is a sure thing, which I have never argued about Vince. Any draft pick is a gamble.


    And FWIW .... Vince delivered under pressure and Reggie did not. Big difference there.
     
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    All under the pretenses of Vince heavily leaning towards staying in school.

    And I have no doubt Bush will have a better rookie season than Vince. Even a brilliant QB like Manning threw more INTs than TDs his rookie year. It's just easier for any RB to go into a system.

    All I know is, Vince undoubtedly has the cool head and leadership qualities a QB needs. On top of that, he has other worldly athletic and physical gifts. Will he make it for sure? I don't know. But I sure wouldn't bet against him, and after all you've said about him, and the plates of crow you should be eating for it, you shouldn't either.
     
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    umm did you watch the gameday crew?
     
  16. IC2000

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    fine nobody is a sure thing, you win that.

    I think bush is as close to a sure thing as can be
     
  17. Cohen

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    You're ****ing kidding.

    Vince is a leader and winner and leaf is a head case.
     
  18. Cohen

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    That's cool.
     
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    All they said was that was a bowl performance for the ages if I remember correctly. Corso said we may never see a performance like that again, and you know what odds are he is right.

    People did not put Vince in the hall of fame even after the Rose Bowl, when if anyone deserved it was him. But now people still question his motion among other things, and he is not getting unanimous love AS AN NFL PROSPECT like Bush from every talking head.
     
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