Bingo!!! The freakin Houston Rox media is one of the most pathetic bunch of company toeing bitcches in the World. We got screwed over by this incompetent mangement once again and they keep spinning the story like "it's not that bad" look at the glass half full mentality of this BS trade but at the same breath look at the glass half empty of Rudy Gay joining the team. Full of shiiet
Sing it, brother. It never fails to crack me up when some dude who's been here 5 minutes is spewing this junk. We have members here who've forgotten more basketball than Mr., "I will pass judgement on people who've been at ClutchFans for years... I have spoken!" rserina. (present company excluded... I'm only a fan of the Rocks since they moved to Houston, and have similar ties to UH, GATER, although they go farther back in the mists of time. the Blade Runner is no basketball guru)
They do tend to stick up for the Rockets, but I don't think thats all bad. They could be like the Orlando press that constantly b****es about their players and runs them out of town.
Dont forget draftexpress.com that gave us an A. They are stupid too....or do they know more about Rudy Gay than us. Its dissapointing that so many people think Rudy Gay wll become this star when they have seen like 2 min video clips on him. The guy hasnt shown once that he is a bona fide star.
I agree. All of a sudden, Rudy Gay has become the sure thing, future allstar, or hall of famer. I think his value has been grossly inflated. On the other hand, Shane Battier suddenly becomes that average nobody. Everyone is so high on potential and people who can run and jump. This sentimentalism on what could be instead of what is is quite amazing. Gay may one day be a star player, but I feel the trade is a fair gamble. All I am saying is, there may be choice B, C, or D, other than the choice A that the whole rockets management are dumb and coah JVG is a stubborn tyrant who is trying to destroy the team.
The part that drives me absolutely nuts is adding Swift. I am pissed off about Gay for Battier. Why make moves that doesnt get you over the hump? I mean really, why bother. Ask yourself this. Does Battier make us a better team then we were two years ago before the injuries? If you think so, then you are delusional. As far as SS goes, are we really to believe that JHO is our PF to lead us to the promise land? He is a blithe on our team, he has no D, cant block shots, doesnt rebound all that well, is slow afoot, and is limitedly a good scorer on some nights. He is overmatched. Swift when given the opportunity during a two week stretch proved he could of been what we were looking for, then suddenly, after his fine stetch he got 8 mins one game and zero the next. Its beyond comprehension that anyone expects anything more out of him. At very least Swift is needed for depth, and his shot blocking abitlity. He can limitedly spell Ming at the C position. How does adding Battier help us? He plays TMacs position, and dont feed me that he is a servicable PF. This is about as lopsided as a trade gets.
I was going to post something like this last night... it's funny how when they need it, Feigen's marionette strings get tugged a bit into writing a pro-Rockets-organization spin. I'm not saying they force him to - I obviously can't prove that. But at the least it's as if he's trying to stay in their good graces so he can continue getting stories. I don't know if I can blame him, but the Rockets fan-populace suffers as a result.
Here's the question to ask. By adding Shane Battier, a decent role player, how many more games will the Rockets win? With Shane Battier, can the Rockets now defeat the Spurs, Suns, Mavericks, Pistons, or Heat? Until they find a true PF, a real PG, and a good scorer off the bench, the answer will be NO. People posting about Rudy Gay as a sure thing can't see the big picture. The big picture is that Shane Battier is irrelevant. His addition does not make us a championship team. We have no cap room and our MLE gets us squat. In fact last year our big FA acuisition was Stromile Swift. How will the Rockets add the additional pieces? Answer: They can't. Rudy Gay has the potential to be something we know Shane Battier will never become.
Battier would help us defeat those teams more than Gay would have. And with the MLE, I'm confident we'll be getting Mike James who is a real PG like you said. And Head can be our good scorer off the bench, hell Novak can be that too.
I have watched quite a few UConn's games not just a few minutes of highlights. Gay has all the tools to succeed in NBA, athelic, long, can shot, good defender. When West is gashing him, you know what Rockets just gives up. I ranked Gay as #1 choice for Rockets, in fact, ahead of Roy. Just to see him slipping from our hands is plainly painful. Mark my words. Even as a rookie, he is going to make more impact than Battier. I like Battier's game. But he is simmply a role player. Gay has a potential to be an all-star.
Next season maybe. But what difference makes if we can't beat them? Now, what about after next seaon? Are you still that certain? Time is not on Shane's side. That's the problem.
How do you know Gay can not do better in terms of defending? He is young and long and moves feet well. He can be taught if JVG is patient, which I think he lacks. He will be a better defender. Think if you got to keep gay, getting Mike James, and Novak. That's we are talking about. We are set to build a champanship level team and will be able to compete not just this yr or next but for yrs to come. That's the phylosophy how Spurs to build its team by keeping a stud young player under rookie contract. You will be able to manage cap. If the experiment of Battier fails, what are you going to do? Trade him. Unlikely with his lenght contract. If the experiment of Gay fails, it is much easier to trade a rookie with potential like Gay given his age (19 yrs old) and many other team thinks high of him. Even nobody wants to take him, we can easily cut him since he only makes 2 million dollars, while Battier makes 6-7 millions.
let's not forget, feigen is the guy who was pumping up an athletic four, who can play defense, and shoot and spread the floor. problem is, he may not be able to cover the fours we need him to cover.
I did. He replied me with the same lines he used in the article. I don't know if he really believes that **** or he is just being the mouth of Rox club.
The gamble is can we win now (in the West) with Battier versus what kind of player does Gay really become. The Rockets chose to trade for a known (Battier) to try to win now while bypassing a GAMBLE on the unknown (Gay) and his future upside/downside. You are correct that there are other choices, B, C & D, but there are obviously many of us (including Jerry West and say 75% or so according to the CC.net poll) who wanted to take the risk and gamble on Gay. It doesn't mean that we are right about him as the choice, numerous choices could succeed or fail and we won't really know for a few years which choice was better. However, we wanted to gamble that Gay's downside = Battier's upside. We wanted to add youth, height, length and run-jump athleticism to this team today so that we don't all succomb to foot, back and knee problems at the same time in the Rockets future. Frankly I do see some appeal to having Battier on this team (good defense, multi-position player, honest effort, decent spot shooter) but I rather wanted to gamble on Gay.
In 07 the Rockets will be in the playoffs and the Grizzlies will be tanking to get a lottery pick, and all of these posts about how dumb the Rockets are and how bad Battier sucks will show up in those "Hall of Fame" quotes Clutch shows every once in a while, ala "Qyntel Woods is the second-coming of TMac". For every KG and TMac that makes it from "tremendous upside" to genuine All-Star, there are dozens and dozens of disappointments, from total busts to only-serviceable roleplayers (Kwame Brown, Darko, Telfair, Sam Bowie, Stromile Swift, so on..). Think about it another way.. if Rudy Gay really was a guaranteed All-Star, do you --really-- think he would've been available at the 8th pick? He dropped below Foye, Roy, and some guy from Senegal!
