Enough of this Kawhi Leonard Bullsh**, JOHN WALL is the real MVP

MVP is not about being best in the league, you little buthurt Harden homer.

 

that escalated quickly

 

Post reported - neg rep.

 

Wall is averaging double double. The only reason he doesn't get double digit rebounds and average triple double is because his team doesn't know how to box out for him like Westbrook's does.

Did I mention media conspiracy?

 

Well if John Wall is getting MVP love than Dion Waiters should be getting MVP love too

 

don't be crazy

 

Wall is a good player, but not even in the same conversation as Kawhi except in the OPs fantasy world.

 

Too early to be this drunk

 

You trolls are the worst. Stfu remedial.

 

I can't prove it.

But let's compare them by the various player metrics out there:

PER (B-R.com):
Wall: 22.3, Leonard: 28.4

WS (B-R.com):
Wall: 6.9, Leonard: 11.3

WS/48 (B-R.com):
Wall: .146, Leonard: .277

BPM (B-R.com):
Wall: 4.0, Leonard: 8.1

VORP (B-R.com):
Wall: 3.4, Leonard: 5.0

RPM (ESPN.com):
Wall: 3.2, Leonard: 6.23

Wins based on RPM (ESPN.com):
Wall: 8.88, Leonard: 10.98

PIE (NBA.com);
Wall: 15.3, Leonard: 17.9

Net On/Off Rating (82games.com):
Wall: +13.3, Leonard: +1.5

Only the last one (Net On/Off rating) doesn't account at all for the player's individual statistics, and Wall does rate higher by that measure. I think its fair to say that the Wizards depend more on Wall to be good than the Spurs depend on Leonard to be good. If that's our primary criteria for MVP, then a case can be made for Wall over Leonard.

But MVP is usually a blend of both impact on the team -- particularly towards making one's team a legit championship contender -- and excellence of play. Leonard beats out Wall on overall excellence of play based on the fact that virtually every player metric that measures individual production gives him a significant edge. And then one also shouldn't ignore that the Spurs are a title contender, and the Wizards are a pretender.

 

That's because Kashi doesn't play in the NBA

 

So @durvasa points out all of the metrics in which a player is measured regarding his team winning, and all you can say is "well, Kashi doesn't have more assists and average more points than Wall, so Wall > Kashi?"

I'll do you one better.

Why are there no videos of Wall playing defense?
A: Because he is not as good as Kawhi.

This is also why Kawhi is *superior* in hand size length to Wall- the 1st or 2nd best player at this...lol.

See? I can take two things that have nothing to do with each other, and try to make a crappy argument, too.

If you're going to seriously endorse player A over player B, then you're not trying hard enough.
If you're actively trying to troll, then you're trying too hard.