I agree that Yao has huge marketing potential. Also, are you sure about the weed thing? I've heard of a lot of the Blazers puffing weed, but not Zach. If I traded for Zach, I would definitely try to move Mo to another team.
To all the idiots: I am not a Yao only fan. But your dislikes of Yao make my stomach upside down. If you need instant satisfaction, there is other thing you can do to please yourselves. Why are ppl so greedy these days?
Juggie, you are really a jerk. Don't make any new threads if you have no IQ. Get a life, give Yao a break.
damn i thought i loved basketball this juugie guy most really be horny over it to spend a quite bit of time to rant and discuss all the opinion with that been said YAO will be a great player and when he is, i want this dude and all the other ming bashers to formally apologize to YAO, and by the way steve is my fav player.
Maurice is almost untradeable. His $8 million/year salary is here to stay more than likely like Moochie's contract. "Blazers' Randolph apologizes for mar1juana arrest " http://cbs.sportsline.com/nba/story/6890257
Well okay let's ASSUME you're actually a Rockets fan and you're loyal and you DID watch all those games you claimed you've watched or whtvr. OK let's say you're the MOST LOYAL rockets fan alive okay? Your statements about Yao are still IGNORANT and FAULTY. Please before you try to say anything to prove your point. At least be true. (I'm sure if you go take GRE today your score won't be accepted by any grad school in the US) Despite your other I-dun-even-bother-to-respond-cuz-they-are-too-stupid comments about yao, this one obviously can't be let go. Your saying that ppl (EVEN PPL IN CHINA!!!!!!) dun even talk about Yao ANYMORE is just stupid!!! I don't think ppl (ESPECIALLY IN CHINA) who were talkin' about Yao suddenly switched all their attentions to Lebron this season. Yao's old news? So what are you doing here?? This thread YOU came up with has been around Yao. YOU yourself are talking about Yao NOW. And, if you can't read, at least look at the pictures on this site today. It's Yao. There's no doubt that Yao's still drawing attention around houston, US AND CHINA.
No i dont think you are that way or any other way. I was just dumbfounded to as why you were defending Juugie. As you can see I'm not the only poster here who thinks Juggie is an idiotic. Well maybe he's not really an idiot. But he sure seems to be stubborn SOB.
its hilarious when when there is a thread citizising yao, people think that the world is over... and when people critzise francis, people happily join the bandwagon. Also funny how when steve was considered a franchise player he was bashed alot. And many people say since he is our franchise player we should blaim him for all our problems, but when people consider yao the "franchise" player he has no blaim to any loss... Sensing some hypocrocy...
Many people have no problem with criticizing Yao at all. Let's talk about what he did wrong and what he should be doing better. But saying he is making this team worse (the claim that other players are sacrificed because of him) is plain ignorant. And the request to give up on Yao and let the guards to play however they want is the stupiest thing said in quite a long time. Haven't we had enough with the iso style? This new offense is ugly, but it is new and give it some time to fine tune. Besides, we don't have a true PG and we have big problem on PF. Those are at the top of our problem list. Yao is not.
Too true... And amazing to me that as Yao's stat averages keep heading in a downward spiral... all people here can do is overlook reality and call us former homer cheerleaders a bunch of bandwagoners. Excuse me, but I believe the Yao crowd is the "bandwagon." Most of us on planet earth will be Rockets fans long after Yao's career here is done, whether 3 years, or 13 years... just as we've been for over 26 years. Face the facts. The facts are that Yao is stinkin' it up as of late, as is Francis... but Yao has NEVER shown great tenacity in the low post, well maybe in the CBA or in about 10 games in the NBA... but for the most part Yao does not play as STRONG as he should - and COULD. Sure Francis is struggling this year, but wouldn't anyone in a new system? And especially so after being put on the back burner as the team leader? A realist would say that Francis is finally learning to be a true PG and learning to think teammates first, thus a realist would give him a break, or say he needs to learn on someone else's clock... but whatever your view does not make you a bandwagon jumper. It makes you a fan. Yao needs to grow up and play stronger, obviously. And I'm all for it happening here, as I think and hope it will. I am a fan with a realistic view. Just because a player wears the Rockets uniform does not exempt him from reality and evaluation based on facts. Opinion slanted? Sure, but facts nonetheless. No. I do not suggest a trade of any sort, but I suggest a shake up. Say a benching of ANY player that has problems scoring. The problem is, we don't have any other size at the Center, or any better starter either there or at PG. Enough is Enough... but we'll have to grow through this one. And growing pains are rough sometimes.
Ah-ha....now we get to the heart of the problem quite to the contrary. Matter of a fact, if you read my initial post on the first page, you would see that I took him to task for creating yet ANOTHER moronic thread. Didnt see that one did you? The post that seems to have caught your attention is one making fun of some guy who's sole ability to combat stupid threads/posts is to call names...real class...so I made fun of him. What did any of that have to do with you? Oh wait, I get it.....playboy is your trolling username isnt it?? Cause I was making fun of playboy, and you jumped in and started crap with me. Not only are you lacking in your reading comprehension skills, but you cant keep your usernames straight when responding. Let me make this perfectly clear. If you dont like what he is spouting, beat him down with real posts...not IDIOT, STUPID IDIOT...and then the classy crack about wet dreams.. great debating skills there hoss. At least when I feel the need to argue with someone, I try to actually post some substance. All the other times, I make fun of em.
I can see this subject really brings out the venom on the forum. Can't y'all see that right now both Yao and Francis are stinking up the court and dividing Rockets's fans! Lets trade the both of them so we'll all be happy!
If you read my post you would see it says OUTSIDE OF HOUSTON AND CHINA as in New York, LA, Chicago. I live in New York right now and I can tell you that not a single New York fan has even mentioned his name all year. Nor should they, he doesn't play for their team. But to think that people all over the country want him so bad that they spens ever waking hour thinking about him is being paranoid.
Also, let me clear something up. I never said Yao is a cancer. Nor do I think he is detrimental to the team. I think Yao is a classy and a great team oriented player. The team is not worse with Yao. What I have a problem with is the fact that the Rockets have decided to make him the focal point of the offense before he was ready to be so and have disrupted the offensive games of others to do so. So in trying to force feed Yao into being a Dream/Shaq type force on the low block right now, he is being pushed around and becoming more tentative with less confidence as is Steve and Cuttino. My problem is with the coaches not with Yao. All I have ever said is that Yao will be a very good if not great player - my opinion. Even if he does become a great player, he's still not going to be the kind of player the coaches and management are trying to force him to be. So the Rockets should either adjust the offense and let Yao score off the guards penetration via kick out for his jumper or rolling to the basket to finish at the rim or to trade him and try to bring in the type of player they want. Yes, maybe I have criticised Yao a little too much, but it becomes old and frustrating reading dozens of threads that everyone on the team besides Yao, Boki, and Pike are dump, potsmoking, selfish people that need to be traded.
No disrespect Mr. Juugie but do u have some kind of logical problem? 1) u live in NY then u can tell us that "not a SINGLE New York fan has even mentioned his name all year."? U have met every single NY fans already? 2) When I question that is Yao really as bad as u think, then u claim that I think "Yao is god". "No as bad as u think" is equivalent to "yao is god"? 3) Let's assume that Yao is as bad as u think, then why would u propose to trade him for All-star, ROY or potential most improved player of the year? Yao plays bastetball at your backyard and u r only one who know he sucks?
Thanks. I think u just explain yourself. I think a lot of fans feel hurt by the criticism against their beloved players. Then they try to call out other players out of frustration. These apply to both yao- and sf- fans. I visit lakers boards periodically and they argue everyday whether kobe or shaq should be the focal point. At least they won 3 championships and we didnt even make the playoffs. SAD SAD SAD.....
Yes, Yao is too nice & passive in the paint. I wonder if he was to get into an altercation or a fight on the court that it would light a fire of more intensity in his game. He should be dunking on everyone's mug night in and night out.
Juugie Your comment about letting Mobley, Francis, and JJ do their thing is the most ludicrous thing I have ever heard. If YAO was not on our team and we still had the same players, we would be much worse than we are today. When we make the playoffs this year, its not going to be of the stellar play of Francis and Mobley. Because we know where that has taken us the last FOUR years. Nowhere. It will be because of a team sharing the ball and because of a physical presence in the middle. If you asked every GM around the league who they would draft 1st right now, they would all say Yao Ming. I think they might know more than you.
When you say who they would draft 1st, do you mean from Yao's draft class or just anyone in the NBA in general? Because, yes most of them would say they would draft Yao 1st form his draft, very few if any of them would have drafted him over LeBron.
