1-3-1 trapping zone in the first half. Battier is the trapping 4 that comes to "show" on Nash. He can decide whether he will stay on Nash or rotate back. Yao camps the lane. Yao is shielded early in the game against fouls. 1-3-1 trapping zone in the second half. Yao is the trapping 4 in the second half. He's shielded from fouls in the first half. McGrady stays on the PG and Yao rotates in and out helping between McGrady and Hayes. Yao can now afford to show and to disrupt the PnR or dribble-drive. More
We almost never play zone. The few times we've tried it, we've been picked apart. I think it's safe to say that we're not going to use a zone defense in the playoffs.
We play hanging man. Almost like a zone, but not really. I think 1-3-1 would work out nicely if Rafer can stay intense and not overcommit to the passing lanes.
This is how you stop pick and roll by adjusting your defense constantly. JVG continues leaving Rafer and Yao in a bad defense. 1. Play it straight up and Rafer must recover quickly. 2. Double team the point and rotate off the worst shooter on Utah 3. Hedge and force the point guard to the right or left. This eliminates Yao guessing, which way the pg is going. Remember how Fakers and Shaq defended the pnr 4. Zone up after a couple of buckets
I'll admit, I was a real fan of the way the Shaq and Kobe Laker team was constructed (for their offensive domination). I don't know if I would say Yao is a worse PnR defender than Shaq was, they were more or less on the exact same level IMHO. They both refuse to show at all beginning games, and would only start showing in crunch time, but still sometimes get burned. Shaq's complete domination on the offensive end more than compensated for that. For Yao to do the same, he must shoot at least in the mid50's in percentage, and draw considerable amount of fouls on the opponents front. One thing of that all of you have to accept is that although Yao is very good one on one post defender because of his length and LACK of leaping ability (because his slow jumps keep him from getting caught in the air), and can be a very good help defender as well when his timing is their, BUT HE WILL ALWAYS BE A VERY POOR PNR DEFENDER. No player as big as a Yao or Shaq was,is, or ever will be a good PnR defender. It's really up to the Coach to scheme up a team defense that can force the the picker to pass to his third or forth option on the play.
You forgot trapping, where the guard is doubled and the forward is passed off to the rest of the team. This is good for guards that do not handle pressure defense well and can cause turnovers, but you probably don't want it to be your primary method of defending the PnR.
Zone against Jazz, Mavs, and Spurs. The key is not too overchase the perimeter players. We can afford to leave the worst 3pt shooter e.g. AK47, Devin Harris, Tony Parker wide open instead of overchasing and give up easy 3s for the better shooters. With regard to the Phoenix, it's probably more realistic to hope that they rest their starters tomorrow and get beaten buy the Spurs in the playoffs rather than thinking of a way of stopping their P&R. There might be a better chance that Chuck Hayes can one day play like Charles Barkley than the Rockets can stop the Sun's pick and roll.
Good news: Deron Williams is not 100% healthy right now, according to Jazz forum. Bad news: An injured CP3 still smoked our defence.
i really dont care how we defend the PnR, as long as Yao doesnt get worn out. There is no answer for him on the offensive end.
If Deron Williams isn't healthy and doesn't play well, the Jazz can't beat us in the 1st round. Even though only Boozer will get MVP votes, Williams is the Jazz' MIP (Most Important Player).
Since the penetration of their PG starts the chain action of breaking down defence, what about doubling their PG (Nash, Deron Williams)? Will that stop their penetration?
OMG will the people suggesting zone defenses please stop already!? It's not going to happen. The ideas sound nice and creative and all, and maybe they would potentially work with our cast of characters. But we're not going to use defenses that we rarely implement during games.
Don't bet your last peso on that one! Each team will have a different wrinkle or 2 for the playoffs. An occasional zone may be one of our wrinkles.
With a PG like Nash and players like the Suns have, forget it. Double-teaming Nash is suicide because he's such a great passer. The best way to slow him down is the exact opposite tactic: You defend the passing lanes and make him keep the ball. I agree with Rockets64 on the zone defense issue. It definitely won't be our primary way of defending the PnR in the playoffs.
What makes you so sure really? Is your only reason that we barely use it in the regular season? What I think you're implying is that JVG is not flexible defensively and I do agree with that to a certain extent. But the playoffs are a whole different animal! It's a chess match between coaches in the playoffs. It's all about how well you counter their counter moves. I guarantee you that you will see a basic 2-3 zone mixed in to the mix IF WE CONTINUE to show our inability to slow down Utah's P&R offense. Utah is not really that great of a passing/shooting team as a whole to be scared of deploying the zone occasionally. Do you still think they will run a P&R against a zone? It's kinda obvious for me to at least try to play zone when we cannot stop their P&R.
btw, I think your definitions of going under and going over are reversed. The best thing to do is to mix it up and use all of the 5 defenses. 1) You don't stop them all the time but try to make it hard on them. Make the offensive players make the right decision. 2) Give up the outside shots first and see if they can make them. If they can, make them drive and vice versa. 3) The defensive guard who is picked needs to work extra hard fighting over the pick. Try to get some moving screen calls. If failed and he is completely picked off, recover and help the helper. 4) The defensive forward/ center, when the play calls for doubling, trapping or showing, needs to show hard and push the offensive guard further out. Don't let him turn the corner too easily but don't let him split the defense either. 5) The 3rd defender, needs to drop into the paint quickly to stop a penetration or a cut to the basket. 6) If we stop their 1st 2, 3 options, they are left with an outside shot for another man. The 4th, 5th defender needs to rotate and challenge it.
You're absolutely correct. I just found an interesting P&R defense blog entry, where an analyst (former Euro coach) is discussing how to defend the Rockets' P&R. What he called hedging, I called showing. http://highfivehoopschool.blogspot.com/2007/01/kings-struggles.html
