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Elon vs Twitter update: Elon helped America win , Tesla stock through the roof

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by tinman, Mar 26, 2022.

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Who is for democracy?

  1. Elon

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    57.6%
  2. Twitter

    9 vote(s)
    15.3%
  3. Chinese democracy by Guns N Roses

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    27.1%
  1. Reeko

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    yeah, the common white nationalist view
     
  2. Astrodome

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    Thanks for sharing JR. Yes, the FBI cheated to get Biden elected but they had few options. It is amazing that this isn't a bigger deal but we all know the liberal media wants this story to go away ASAP.
     
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  3. Reeko

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    the account is full of white replacement and “white people are under attack” talking points and retweets stuff like this



    gimme a break
     
  4. CCorn

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    I haven’t noticed anything different about Twitter outside of Elon always on my feed.
     
  5. No Worries

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    CNET reports that a lot of potential Tesla buyers are bailing on their orders because of Elon Musk’s erratic behavior and right-wing trolling.

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    CNET: “The last straw for Heather was Elon Musk's vitriolic attacks on Anthony Fauci, one of the world's most respected immunologists and the outgoing director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases. For Logan, it was when Musk, days after taking over Twitter, ordered employees to stop paying bills to vendors for services they'd already rendered.

    For Tom, Musk's corrosive and erratic leadership of Twitter since he bought the social media site at the end of October was just too much.

    And when each of them called to cancel their Tesla car preorders or to terminate their car leases over the past few months, saying Musk's toxic behavior was the reason, they were told pretty much the same thing from the Tesla salesperson on the other end of the line: "We're hearing a lot of that,…."
     
  6. J.R.

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    1. TWITTER FILES PART 8

    *How Twitter Quietly Aided the Pentagon’s Covert Online PsyOp Campaign*

    Despite promises to shut down covert state-run propaganda networks, Twitter docs show that the social media giant directly assisted the U.S. military’s influence operations.

    2. Twitter has claimed for years that they make concerted efforts to detect & thwart gov-backed platform manipulation. Here is Twitter testifying to Congress about its pledge to rapidly identify and shut down all state-backed covert information operations & deceptive propaganda.
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    3. But behind the scenes, Twitter gave approval & special protection to the U.S. military’s online psychological influence ops. Despite knowledge that Pentagon propaganda accounts used covert identities, Twitter did not suspend many for around 2 years or more. Some remain active.

    4. In 2017, a U.S. Central Command (CENTCOM) official sent Twitter a list of 52 Arab language accounts “we use to amplify certain messages.” The official asked for priority service for six accounts, verification for one & “whitelist” abilities for the others.
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    5. The same day CENTCOM sent the list, Twitter officials used a tool to grant a special “whitelist” tag that essentially provides verification status to the accounts w/o the blue check, meaning they are exempt from spam/abuse flags, more visible/likely to trend on hashtags.

    6. The CENTCOM accounts on the list tweeted frequently about U.S. military priorities in the Middle East, including promoting anti-Iran messages, promotion of the Saudi Arabia-U.S. backed war in Yemen, and “accurate” U.S. drone strikes that claimed to only hit terrorists.
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    7. CENTCOM then shifted strategies & deleted disclosures of ties to the Twitter accounts. The bios of the accounts changed to seemingly organic profiles. One bio read: “Euphrates pulse.” Another used an apparent deep fake profile pic & claimed to be a source of Iraqi opinion.
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    8. One Twitter official who spoke to me said he feels deceived by the covert shift. Still, many emails from throughout 2020 show that high-level Twitter executives were well aware of DoD’s vast network of fake accounts & covert propaganda and did not suspend the accounts.

    9. For example, Twitter lawyer Jim Baker mused in a July 2020 email, about an upcoming DoD meeting, that the Pentagon used "poor tradecraft" in setting up its network, and were seeking strategies for not exposing the accounts that are “linked to each other or to DoD or the USG.”

    10. Stacia Cardille, another Twitter attorney, replied that the Pentagon wanted a SCIF & may want to retroactively classify its social media activities “to obfuscate their activity in this space, and that this may represent an overclassification to avoid embarrassment.”
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    11. In several other 2020 emails, high-level Twitter executives/lawyers discussed the covert network and even recirculated the 2017 list from CENTCOM and shared another list of 157 undisclosed Pentagon accounts, again mostly focused on Middle East military issues.

    12. In a May 2020 email, Twitter’s Lisa Roman emailed the DoD w/two lists. One list was accounts “previously provided to us” & another list Twitter detected. The accounts tweeted in Russian & Arabic on US military issues in Syria/ISIS & many also did not disclose Pentagon ties.
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    13. Many of these secretive U.S. military propaganda accounts, despite detection by Twitter as late as 2020 (but potentially earlier) continued tweeting through this year, some not suspended until May 2022 or later, according to records I reviewed.

    14. In August 2022, a Stanford Internet Observatory report exposed a U.S. military covert propaganda network on Facebook, Telegram, Twitter & other apps using fake news portals and deep fake images and memes against U.S. foreign adversaries. https://t.co/dNH175YZmo

    15. The U.S. propaganda network relentlessly pushed narratives against Russia, China, and other foreign countries. They accused Iran of "threatening Iraq’s water security and flooding the country with crystal meth," and of harvesting the organs of Afghan refugees.

    16. The Stanford report did not identify all of the accounts in the network but one they did name was the exact same Twitter account CENTCOM asked for whitelist privileges in its 2017 email. I verified via Twitter’s internal tools. The account used an AI-created deep fake image.
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    17. In subsequent reporting, Twitter was cast as an unbiased hero for removing “a network of fake user accounts promoting pro-Western policy positions.” Media covering the story described Twitter as evenly applying its policies & proactive in suspending the DoD network.

    18. The reality is much more murky. Twitter actively assisted CENTCOM’s network going back to 2017 and as late as 2020 knew these accounts were covert/designed to deceive to manipulate the discourse, a violation of Twitter’s policies & promises. They waited years to suspend.

    19. Twitter’s comms team was closely in touch with reporters, working to minimize Twitter’s role. When the WashPost reported on the scandal, Twitter officials congratulated each other because the story didn’t mention any Twitter employees & focused largely on the Pentagon.
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    20. The conduct with the U.S. military’s covert network stands in stark contrast with how Twitter has boasted about rapidly identifying and taking down covert accounts tied to state-backed influence operations, including Thailand, Russia, Venezuela, and others since 2016.

    21. Here is my reported piece w/more detail. I was given access to Twitter for a few days. I signed/agreed to nothing, Twitter had no input into anything I did or wrote. The searches were carried out by a Twitter attorney, so what I saw could be limited. https://t.co/AgcFy71fE3
     
  8. Amiga

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    The director of the FBI, a Republican appointed by Trump, cheated to get Biden elected. :rolleyes:

    Republicans should call for Wray resignation now.
     
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    One thing I have noticed about fanatics and fanbois is they are not supportive of each other, they are just supportive of the end goal or their savior.

    The moment one thinks on their own and turns against the savior, they are quick to disregard that person.
    I am seeing that now with TSLA bulls. As soon as one bull says something remotely negative or critical, they are shi**ing on them.

    Ross here has been sucking off elon for years. Look how that's panning out:

     
  10. Astrodome

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    Are you just ignoring the collaboration or do you find these releases to be false?
     
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    I feel bad for that woman who is always used as a punching bag for conservative outrage at liberals.
     
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    She was completely normal but people got a funny freeze frame and ran with it.
    Imagine if that was your sister or daughter (or you?) and people use it mercilessly to make fun of how she looks and say that’s how all feminists are.
     
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  15. Ubiquitin

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    It’s surprisingly non-partisan to call to break up big tech for various reasons. Twitter has been in the crosshairs long before Elon. Meta too. Add Google, Apple, and Amazon to the conversation and we may have some fresh competition in tech sector and the whole economy.
     
  16. Space Ghost

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    Im not sure how you can 'break up' Twitter. Unless you mean to force Twitter to cease operating.
     
  17. ThatBoyNick

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    It's also vice versa, with cons previously saying it doesn't matter if it's a private company, free speech needs to be regulated, and now turning and saying hey it's a private company.

    As always with these issues, amongst many people with next to nothing but political or cultural affiliations, no honest position is being held.
     
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  18. gifford1967

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    lol
     
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    lol
     
  20. rocketsjudoka

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    You throw that around a lot but how is it a straw man if when Musk took over Twitter he was celebrated by those claiming that free speech had been suppressed under the old regime? That seems to be exactly the argument that has been made by myself and others that private platforms can decide who and how much they want?

    Further now that Musk is deciding to ban, and then reinstate, people for seemingly spurious reasons how does that work with the argument that private platforms shouldn’t be engaged in “censorship”?

    Doesn’t this just lend credence to the idea that a private platform can do what it wants and there is no free speech right to access to a private platform?
     

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