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Elon Musk moves Tesla to Texas in Silicon Valley snub

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  1. Ziggy

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    Zwan might have made the worst album I've ever heard.
     
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    It's better after you melt the Zune it's stored on.
     
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    A lyric, a time, a crusade, a rhyme. One minute a friend... something something the end.


    Sooooo here comes my faith, something something something.
     
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    RIP Brittney Murphy

     
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    Elon's diehard fans (Muskrats?) are becoming annoying

    They're up there with the person that really loves but really, really loves to tell you about:

    IPAs ("you're just not an afficionado if you can't appreciate this undrinkable bitter-ass beer")
    Social media ("influencers")
    Pot (see: IPA) also ("you just haven't tried this strain of keef oil derivative gummy, it will change your life!")
    Bitcoin (at least you're not an MLM or "stonks", right?)
    Veganism (just have an egg and a smile and shut the **** up)
    Guns (general limpdicks)
    Workout Cults (if your workout has a corporate name, **** you)

    I'm sure there's more, but the Musk fanboys are becoming equally insufferable.
     
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    My 18 year old son is a big Musk fan. Everyday he tells me a Musk Fact about how AI is going to take over. He got a full ride scholarship to Babson college in Massachussets but now wants to change from business/finance/broker to software engineer because of this.
     
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    There is potential for win-win if the space wasn't going to be developed anyway, private sector foot the upfront cost/take risk, and a reasonable time frame for surrender of space/assets back to the city/public.

    Hard to find details, but I think you're right, seems like the las vegas loop was paid with hotel taxes with no word on how long boring has exclusivity for. Sounds like elon is taking the city for a ride, figuratively. Not sure y the second richest man's latest biz gets even more subsidies.
     
  9. Space Ghost

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    Because he is the only one trying to solve real world problems successfully and practical.

    His first decade was met with a lot of skepticism. Now this his vastly overrated tesla stock has made him the 2nd wealthiest man, he is now a public enemy.

    Years ago he suggested someone should take up the mantle of building tunnels. Nobody wanted to do it. Now that it's complete, the vultures are out bickering about the success.

    I don't understand why people b**** about him being so successful with government money. In the very least it's not being squandered away with incompetence, fraud waste and abuse.
     
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    I've nothing against the tunnel, see my earlier post, I think it could be a great biz, I certainly don't blame him. The idea behind ppp is private sector shares in the upfront risk in return for potential profit later, but if the city is taking the upfront financial risk as well, I'm questioning if the city is making the right use of its assets.
     
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    Lol literally everything posted above here is wrong.
     
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    Your son is better than everybody else’s son
    Their sons should be working for your son
     
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    https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/12/19/mathews-thank-you-texas-for-taking-elon-musk-off-our-hands/

    Mathews: Thank you, Texas, for taking Elon Musk off our hands
    The Tesla CEO has become California’s Frankenstein; our monster turned against us

    Thank you, Texas, for taking Elon Musk off our hands.

    It may seem strange for California to not care as the world’s fourth-richest person relocates to Austin. But we’re sanguine for two reasons: We recognize the hazards of living amongst the very rich, and we know this billionaire better than you. So with our thanks for giving refuge to the SpaceX and Tesla chief comes this advice:

    Watch your back, Texas, because Mr. Musk will mess with you.

    Musk’s exit is different than other California-to-Texas moves, about which we feel less good. The departures of company headquarters — recently Oracle, Hewlett Packard Enterprise, McKesson — cost us high-wage jobs, and reflect real problems with our costs, regulations and governance. Even worse, younger working-class Californians often leave for the cheaper housing and better schools of suburban Dallas and Houston.

    But Musk’s exit is entirely different. While many people leave California because they can’t afford it, Musk is leaving because Californians finally figured out we couldn’t afford him.

    Musk may be worth over $100 billion — but he’s even richer in hypocrisy and ingratitude. He cultivated the image of the lone, self-made innovator, when he was actually California’s biggest welfare case since the railroad barons. Musk’s three signature companies — SpaceX, Tesla, and SolarCity — are built on billions of dollars in government contracts, subsidies and other largesse. The federal government provided much of this, but California has showered him with money, and provided regulations favoring the electric cars and solar panels his companies sell.

    Yet California’s support did not make Musk a good citizen of our state. Musk compromised worker safety at Tesla’s Fremont plant, flouted securities laws and sabotaged unionization of his employees. Musk has become California’s Frankenstein; our monster turned against us.

    And when the pandemic hit, his behavior toward California turned unforgivably cruel. He railed against the federal economic relief packages that millions of Californians needed — while benefiting from those same packages. He accused California’s COVID response of being fascist while he remained friendly with the California-hating authoritarian in the White House.

    Worst of all, Musk defied stay-at-home orders to reopen Tesla’s factory in Fremont, which may have produced a COVID-19 outbreak there. Unbowed, Musk threatened to leave for Texas. Then he carried out the threat.

    On his way out, he broke all world records for chutzpah. He claimed California doesn’t support innovation — despite all the backing we gave him. He portrayed his departure as a righteous protest — never mentioning Texas’ lack of income taxes, and recent increases in his compensation package. He even had the pot-calls-you-the-kettle gall to accuse California of being “entitled.”

    But his brash brand of blame-shifting seems perfect for you, Texas. The state that asked the Supreme Court to cancel millions of other states’ votes — while demanding its presidential choice be ratified — is a fitting home for a billionaire who would deny others the government assistance that made him rich.

    Just don’t be surprised when he betrays you. Your communities are subsidizing his businesses, even though he often falls short of promised jobs numbers. He’s sure to lash out at your politicians and oil industry. A few editorialists have noticed that Texas just welcomed America’s corporate welfare king.

    SpaceX and Tesla headquarters will remain in California — for now. But if Musk eventually take them with him, it might only be a short-term blow. If government support dries up, or if Musk gets in deeper trouble with the law, those companies could become houses of cards. And, Texas would have to handle the carnage of any Musk meltdown.

    Lone Star leaders typically warn against the influx of all things California. But, Texas, you don’t seem worried — yet — about Musk and his companies.

    California, meanwhile, has only one new reason to worry: Much like SpaceX’s Starship in recent testing, Musk will attempt to return to us … and end up in flames.

    Joe Mathews is a columnist for Zócalo Public Square.

    Correction: An earlier version of this column referred to a SpaceX Falcon 9 ending up “in flames.” It was the SpaceX SN8 Starship that exploded during a test in December 2020.
     
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    they just started clearing a massive tract of land across 130 from the tesla factory. i suspect thats where space x is going. theyre buying up all the land around there they can get their hands on.

    https://www.bizjournals.com/austin/...spacex-facility-planned-near-tesla-plant.html

    Elon Musk could be planning another facility across the toll road from the Tesla Inc. gigafactory rising in eastern Travis County. But instead of making more room for his electric car company, multiple sources told Austin Business Journal that land has been set aside for his space exploration company, SpaceX.

    It’s no secret that Musk wants to locate some operations for Space Exploration Technologies Corp., or SpaceX, in Austin — job postings in early March sought someone to oversee construction of a manufacturing facility in the region. But Musk, the company’s CEO, has not publicly said where such a facility would land in Central Texas.

    Representatives for Tesla and SpaceX did not immediately return requests for comment.

    No permits have been filed yet with the city of Austin for commercial work on the site on the southwest side of State Highway 130, a short distance from the quickly developing Tesla factory, and it’s still possible the company's plans could change. But Musk's land holdings and recent site work suggest something could soon rise there.

    Colorado River Project LLC, the entity Tesla (Nasdaq: TSLA) has been using to buy land in Travis County, owns more than 2,500 acres of land near Austin-Bergstrom International Airport, according to Travis Central Appraisal District records. Travis County Judge Andy Brown said in a February letter to the Foreign-Trade Zones Board that could be expanded to up to 3,500 acres.

    Tesla’s $1.1 billion electric car manufacturing facility is being built on the east side of the SH 130 toll road, and Musk’s company owns at least 752 acres west of the highway, according to filings with TCAD, leaving many to wonder what, if anything, would occupy that space.

    A March 30 drone video posted on YouTube, starting at the 16:35 mark, shows construction crews on the southwest portion of the Colorado River Project land, across the highway from the Tesla factory. Sources close to the project said the plan by publication time was to build a SpaceX facility there.


    There were several permits filed with the city by press time that indicated restoration work was planned throughout the land that Colorado River Project owns. Andy Linseisen, assistant director of the city’s Development Services Department, said the company has been doing this restoration work since last year to wind down the mining operations on the land.

    That means the area is being prepped for some sort of development, even if the plans to build a SpaceX facility fall through.

    The possibility of a SpaceX facility in Austin first came to light when local job postings went public in early March. The posting for the job, which has since been taken down, referred to setting up a "state of the art manufacturing facility" dedicated to Starlink, SpaceX's fledgling plan to deliver internet service around the world using a network of satellites. No details were given on a possible location for the facility at the time. No other Austin jobs were on the company's website at press time.

    The space exploration company already has a major testing facility in Boca Chica, in far South Texas, where it is building its new Starship. The company also has a testing facility in McGregor, southwest of Waco.

    Real estate experts in the region have speculated that SpaceX could land near Tesla’s new facility or somewhere along SH 130 — a magnet in recent months for industrial developers.

    Musk has been opening new facilities for many of his companies in the Austin area in recent months while seemingly maintaining ties to their original California operations.

    Tesla, the largest of them all, is expected to be producing cars in Central Texas by the end of this year. The electric car manufacturer plans to produce its Model 3s, Model Y SUVs, Cybertrucks and Semi tractor-trailers at the Austin-area factory, as well as battery cells.

    Musk announced on March 31 that 10,000 people will be needed for the gigafactory — double the projections the company initially made last year. It's not clear if Musk was referring to the total of direct or indirect jobs, but by publication time, 280 job openings in Austin were posted on Tesla's website.

    ABJ was first to report in December that The Boring Company, a tunnel construction company founded by Musk, had secured industrial space in Pflugerville about 16 miles north of the Tesla site on SH 130. The company had more than a dozen open positions in Austin on its website at the time this article was published.

    Meanwhile, Neuralink Corp. has also posted job openings in Austin, including for a head of construction. That startup, where Musk is co-founder and CEO, is creating brain implants to treat neurological issues such as paralysis. By press time, the company had three local job postings on its website, including an opening for a mechanical, electrical and plumbing engineer that would be tasked with “tackling aggressive timelines for new facilities in Texas and California.” It's not been clear where the company may plan to build in Central Texas.

    This map shows the land owned by Colorado River Project LLC in Travis County in green. Sources say a SpaceX facility is planned for the land southwest of the under-construction gigafactory. The parcels were recently combined on the TCAD website, but this map shows how the parcels were broken up prior to being purchased by the company.

    https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewe...&ll=30.22872924437954,-97.61952143456344&z=14
     
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    Didn't you already post this? I've already come across this pitiful article on several sites.

    What a monster. The worst. He defied a shut down order that wouldn't have happened in Texas.

    What's the saying? If you don't like it, you can leave. There are 50 states that would happily take him. Author comes across as an incel who just got rejected by his first crush.
     
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    Lol Freemont is basically just a BART station without Elon.

    Am I right? @B-Bob
     
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