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Ellen Pages confronts Ted Cruz on Gay Rights

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by what, Aug 21, 2015.

  1. Dairy Ashford

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    That's happening in Muslim countries, not here. Good debating tactic, but an irrelevant misdirect to issues of discrimination here, especially considering that conservatives by and large don't care about gay or female oppression overseas, either.
     
  2. cml750

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    Agree 100%!!!!!!
     
  3. cml750

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    AGREED AGAIN!!!
     
  4. bobmarley

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    You used segregation and interracial couples to try and make your point. You have lost already. You genuinely seem overwhelmed by Ted Cruz. It will be okay.
     
  5. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    ISIS is the biggest threat to Texans being discriminated against by hate legislation sponsored by Ted Cruz. LOL That's great.
     
  6. bobmarley

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    41,800,000 results for 'gay rights' on Google News say hello. Sit down before you hurt yourself. It's not about cake, but WEDDING cake. They would make them 10,000 other cakes if they asked, but this is simple target tactics to harass an American business owner and try to shame them into doing what they want.
     
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    You know who else used interracial couples to make their point: Justice Kennedy citing Loving v. Virginia as to a fundamental right to marry ;)

    There's no winning or losing here at all (maybe we all lose just by being here), but hey, at least the reality is that my arguments are on the winning side of history, and that's all that matters.

    It will be okay.
     
  8. CometsWin

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    Shaming them into doing what they do for a living. You guys have lost your god damn minds.
     
  9. Northside Storm

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    man, you are very bitter aren't you? ;)

    Way to scrape at the details while missing the broader picture. The "focus" argument is completely bulls**t. If you want to be pedantic though, combine Iran and ISIS together, then Google News Middle East, Islam etc.--if you're going to mount an argument mount a complete one! Combine them all together and let me know what the media "focuses" on. Gay rights or the Middle East and Islam?

    Then answer this from my previous post:

    does your position on one domestic issue where you can exert action then make you utterly incapable of extending the logic and attention of your beliefs to other issues?

    wait, does that make the former exercise irrelevant? wow, yeah! but hey, get some mental math practice in while you're at it. :)

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    don't hurt yourself with the whole shaming argument, if you want to shame homosexuals you still can: just don't expect to run a profit-taking business immune from civil claims! run a religious organization. There are always other florists.
     
  10. cml750

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    While being gay is morally reprehensible, it is no worse than lying or murdering. Thankfully the blood of Jesus can wash away ANY sin if you accept it!!!
     
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    what if somebody had murdered Jesus

    would that not be very ironic
     
  12. Remii

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    It's not shaming... It's strong arming everyone to accept them... Which would probably happen with time.

    Who said they wanted to make cakes for gay weddings for a living...? If if turns out to be a lucrative venture that would be a business that would just miss out on that money.
     
  13. robbie380

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    Is it worse than eating shellfish?
     
  14. SamFisher

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    two canadian showmen arguing - don't care.
     
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    In the context of the United States, which as an United States citizens we should be more concerned about, Muslims interfere with gay rights FAR less than evangelical Christians. The fact that majority of American Muslim citizens vote Democrat means they implicitly don't really care much about homosexual sins. And from my personal experience of being heavily involved with the Muslim community(ex-Muslim) and the conservative Christian community(veterans) Muslim Americans care far less about gay marriage than conservatives.
     
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    Why would freedom from employment discrimination ever be considered a bad thing? And who are you to decide what's more relevant?
     
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    I have no words for your ridiculousness.
     
  18. CometsWin

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    But would Jesus bake them a cake? I bet yes because he loves all of God's children, even da gays.
     
  19. dc rock

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    Ted Cruz will never be POTUS. Besides his views, which are out of step with most Americans, there also too many superficial negatives working against him.

    He doesn't present himself (or communicate) in a presidential way. He has bad posture and a nasally, shrill voice.To add to that, his physical appearance may bewilder and upset voters. Who could guess he's only 44? He looks out of shape and sickly. It's not that he's chubby. Bill Clinton was a chubbo, too. He just looks very weak for his age. He also has no charm to mitigate these problems..
     
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    I don't care what anyone else says, but I think you have a great future in stand up comedy. Have you considered it?
     

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