Similar rebounders IMO, edge to Mobley actually. Simmons doesn't average double digit rebounding even after 5 seasons in NBA. I think Mobley will be a double digit rebounder, like Wood. And saying Simmons is limited offensively is not an admission of anything, it's just fact.
6 shots from 3 are much more efficient than 6 post ups. We've known this for at least a decade. You need to catch up to modern NBA. Next thing you're going to tell me is the mid range is an efficient shot.
Read this. I think as Rockets fans we may have a skewed perception on 3 point shooting and its advantages vs disadvantages and the myth that midrange and post up offense is dead. The game tends to ebb and flow. https://www.nba.com/news/the-finals-stat-giannis-antetokounmpo-bucks-dominate-inside
Also worth noting that the Bucks were one "KD's toe is 1/2" too big and over the line" shot away from not even playing in the Finals - nearly losing to a hobbled Brooklyn team so there is that to consider.
Reason why they were MVP and 1st runner up for MVP. Both guys killed everyone, including big muscled heavy NBA players like Steven Adams, Gasol, Drummond, Dwight, etc.
16.9 shots at basket for Giannis is remarkable. The majority of those were NOT post ups. You know Giannis game just as well as anyone else who watches NBA basketball. Giannis loves to shoot at the basket but he does so in transition and/or show and go from the perimeter. Not with his back to the basket.
Correct, but would it surprise you if I told you that Giannis averaged 6 "post ups" per game during the playoffs - good for 6th among all players? Yet he was only 16th during the regular season. Playoff basketball changes. All the typical game theory and pace arguments go out the window when the game becomes condensed and baskets at a premium. Dropping the ball down is still a lethal option if you have the right personnel. Even if Giannis ISNT a good post up player he makes the defense adjust and make a decision. That aspect opens up EVERYTHING for a 4 out attack. Giannis is a bully. If he wants to get to the rim he will get to the rim and there is not much anyone can do about that. He still shot a bunch of 3's even knowing he wasnt good at them because it softens the defense for other things. Balance is the key.
When you shoot 19% from 3 then you damn well better try something else. But all things being equal, 6 shots from perimeter is more efficient than 6 post ups. Simple math. 3>2 And postseason had nothing to do with it. Giannis was absolutely stinking it up from 3 so he adjusted.
I think people miss the point on the 3s and layups conversation - it always has been contextual depending on who is shooting it. The reality is if you can hit mid range shots at a high enough clip(like Chris Paul), then it can be a much better shot than a wide open 3pter that James Ennis takes. Giannis makes those good shots because of the efficiency with which he makes them. In fact, I would argue THAT was more impactful to the Bucks winning than their team defense. Aside from that contextual piece, there is also an "upside" piece. Morey talked about it after one of the many Warriors series defeats. When your team is overwhelmingly an underdog, sometimes you have to 'up the variance' to give you a shot at winning. 'Upping the variance' in this context means you deliberately overvalue 3pters because making them gives you the only option to victory. You know all things being equal that your team is likely to lose if everyone "plays their game" so you bet that if your team is going to over perform from their norms, you want them to over perform on the one shot that gives you a realistic shot at winning - the 3...especially because a normal Warrior performance includes them hitting A LOT of 3s. It's no different in boxing terms then knowing you are not going to be able to hang with another boxer for 8+ rounds so you strategically take chances to deliver a knockout blow early on a superior boxer. It may be a long shot and expose you to your opponent, but it also may be your only path to victory. It looks really bad when it doesn't work out(0-27 from 3s bad) but when it does, it puts you in a place to over perform and I would argue although Houston got close, it was never anywhere NEAR as talented as those Warriors teams.
Good post. The "high variance" strategy has been discussed before. But I think "take what the defense gives you" is still valid. If the opponent knows you are going to shoot lots of 3s and that's the only good chance to beat them, they are going to focus their defense to stop that. That's when you need to be able to make them pay by adjusting. If you don't adjust, the odds of winning with that high variance are coming down.
The great thing is Second Spectrum can quantify that and say exactly how effective we can shoot in the "what the defense gave xyz player" zone....the downside is, I think defenses know that too so the "what the defense gave you" is probably somewhat by design and informed by the numbers.
I know it also depends on the personnel you have. What I am saying is that two weapons is always better than one weapon. If you have more ways to score, it's harder for the defense to stop you. I like to use the football analogy. The passing game is by far more efficient than the running game. In normal situations, you want to run more passing plays than running plays. But that doesn't mean you should get rid of all your RBs. Even if you have the best passing QB on your team, you still want to have an effective running game to make your passing game easier.
I had a great idea - can we just call this "Morey's Curve"? It feels like an appropriate end to the 'Dork Elvis' legacy in Houston.
I guess you don't know me as well as I thought. Remember me? The guy that has been preaching 3 is greater than 2 since 14/15 But, 100% of 6, Center diving to the rim from 3 pt line is greater than the 1.2 three pt attempt Mobley averaged in college. Nice to meet you, learn me all over again when you get the chance
Mobley dives to the rim as well. You know this. The point of my post was to show my incredulousness because I know we have both been on the same page about bringing in more lengthy 3-D wings. Mobley's 30% from 3 will improve, his shooting form doesn't need a lot of improvement. What he does need is space. Mobley's game will explode with more space.
I agree. Embiid and Jokic are dominating due to the league going skinny. Bucks used Brook Lopez, Giannis, Middleton and Portia to bully their way to a championship this year. AD last season.
You know I feel Bassey can equally do the same as Mobley with his 30.5% from three pt range at a 2.1 clip per game. Dive to rim with greater force/weight behind his momentum. No need to draft #2 for backup PF / Center Here are some highlights of KAT, Embiid, Ayton, Julius Randall, AD, Jokic, Nurkic, Valanciunas, Vuc, Brook Lopez vs C Wood, Claxton, Nerlens Noel
