Elite PGs vs the Rockets

Yeah and Billups is Billups.

Lets give AB some time, he's going to make his mistakes but he's shown that he can score.

 

again, i never said he didn't pass. i mean if we look at purely assist #s, stephon marbury would be one of the all time great PGs.

what i'm talking about is mindset. brooks' mindset is to score, then score, then score some more. that's why nobody is saying, "wow that brooks kid has some great court vision." lowry actually has that court vision. and that's what we need.

 

criticisms don't mean throwing a guy under the bus. the things i have criticized personally on those 2 is their MINDSET. not really their bad games or talent level or whatever. it's the mindset on how they play

 

well, kyle lowry is only 22 years old and has potential. so i'm not so sure about the AB era just yet

 

All i'm saying is the rockets dont have the kind of players to have a pass first pg. How many finishers do this team have? i mean nash is struggling a bit this year because the ball goes to shaq alot. Now shaq isnt as mobile as he used to, but it doesnt take shaq nearly as long to make a decision with the ball as it does yao. Who is the slashing wing? There are certain dynamics that happen with pure pg's. I think Miller is one of and has been one of the best pg's in the league. he would struggle to play with yao because he needs the ball in his hands. I think with yao and since they try to run the offense through him, the pg has to be more scorer than set up guy. There is a reason why the old rocket never got kj or a younger payton near the end. They never felt in was to their strong points with a guy like dream on the court. Who was the best pg ever to play with shaq?

 

oh trust me, i'll take that. but seriously, who are you confident going up against in the playoffs unless it's denver or portland? we would have beaten these 2 teams with the teams we had the previous years too.

but yes, we've seen the best of ron artest. that was before these last few games where he had "i'm the best player mentality." taking these last few games out of the equation, since tracy went down, ron's stats were:
around 18ppg, 5rpg, 4apg, 47%fg, 44%3s, 85%ft, 1.6spg. efficiency-wise, it won't get any better than that. (remember, he's a 42% career shooter and 34% 3pt shooter).

hopefully yao will get stronger though. scola is my best bet to break out in the playoffs. i really expect scola to put up something like 18 and 12 in the first round this year.

 

Hey look! Yet ANOTHER comparison of Aaron Brooks to Tony Parker!

Many people are in denial about this, but the Rafer Alston trade was made as an experiment to see if Brooks was even starting PG material. As they will find out (if the Rockets haven't already), he's not. The experiment was initiated in the first place because they understood they were out of championship contention with McGrady done for the year.

Look for Houston to acquire a competent veteran starting PG in the offseason like Bibby, and don't be surprised if Brooks isn't on the roster next season. He can become the next CP3 or Parker on his next team.

 

the thing is, guys like shaq and dream in their prime don't need a pass-first PG b/c they're so dominant. they can score anytime they want to. that's why guys like jordan or kobe or lebron or wade today don't need a PG to give them the ball b/c they can do anything they want.

with yao, he's not that dominant of a player. he can't score whenever he wants to... he needs the ball at certain times, in a rhythm, at good position... to do well. and since we're building around him, we gotta find guys who can best get him the damn ball. i'm not saying lowry is a great PG. i'm saying from what i have seen, he has the court vision that can help yao.

 

Its not the pg's that scare me in the west. Its really the matchups. Scola cant guard my mama and shane is a no show for the most part. Williams kills everyone. parker dropped 37 and 38 in back to back games. CP3 is CP3.

 

In a game like tonight when the spurs singled yao and yao got the ball on the blks, what more do you want? Coaches always tell you once you get below the ft line, your decision has to be made before you leave the ground. Lowry tried a handoff to yao and it didnt work. brooks tried a close quarters pass also and it didnt worker. You're right, yao isnt dream or shaq and like someone else said everything has to be perfect for him. Well, when you're playing against elite teams, nothing will be perfect. The spurs aren't the defensive tea they used to be, but they're still pretty good when they have to. They will make you 3rd and fourth options win games for you. The rox 3rd and 4th options were scola and brooks.

 

and just pray nobody pulls a luther off the bench.

 

This is an awesome thread. I totally agree that we should give Aaron Brooks a few years as starting point guard to really get a feel for the team. In effect, we'll only go as far as Brooks takes us because, apparently, tinman and leebigez feel he's the future of the Rockets since they're willing to give him several seasons to learn and to really get a feel for how to be a starting point guard on an NBA team. That's really terrific. Brooks IS the Rockets. Screw Yao, Scola, and everyone else. Brooks the chucker needs a few years to learn. Brooks = Rockets.

 

They had brad miller,Brand,and Artest. Then they traded Darius miles for brand and Jallen Rose for Artest and miller. They started over with chandler and curry, but gave chandler away for jr smith and pj brown so they could sign ben wallace then they gave smith away for a 2nd rd pick.

 

BROOKS is not starting material even RADIOHEAD knows that.....if you SCREW the lyrics they say it in the keyboards......you know an instrument.....the things real musicians use and don't just sample like some people who consider themselves "ARTISTS".

 

excellent post, brospeh.

 

so 4 weeks of being the starter = brooks IS the rockets?

congrats on the asinine post, though.