Oh, sorry. Courts shouldn't allow a recount. Nosirree. We've got precedence in this here country now. Heh heh.
Is this what you are thinking? Arnold wins his battle with Bustamante, McClintock, etc., by a landslide, but because some of his supporters failed to vote "yes" to the recall, Davis is retained by a narrow margin... That would be a wild finish. Talk about an informed electorate!
I suspect we are reasonably comparable. Here's hoping our choices are never narrowed down to a candidate with a high degree of benign ineptitude versus an entertainer with no political experience. Sadly Texas had a similar choice and chose a coked out frat boy with no political experience. For dejavu all over again did, did you say where Mr. Family values, Warren Hatch, is already talking about a Consitutuional Amendment so Arnold can run for president? I think this is really a silly French sex comedy plot to make us Americans look ridicuous.
I voted about almost two weeks ago. The early voting here in Ca. is super convenient. I voted three no's and one that wasn't for Arnold or Bustamante. I was really tempted to vote for Gary Coleman, and maybe I should have, but anyway they are saying it could be 28 days before we have all the returns. I agree about the infrastructure proposition being poorly worded. I also think one of the problems with Ca. budget crisis is that so much of the money is already mandated where it's spent. I didn't want to tie down more money, unless perhaps it would be for education or an inusrance proposition depending on how they were worded. The thing I hope most is that prop 53 doesn't pass.
Afternoon exit polls say the recall and Arnold win easily. Check drudgereport.com for the numbers. I'm actually kind of excited to see what happens next.
There almost definitely will be a recall effort. It's so easy I think there'll be a recall effort of every California governor until they change the law. But I hope there's not one. I want to watch Arnold try to fix California's problems. I'm done with the sexual assault stuff. He should get hell for it, but I don't care if he does or doesn't. I want him in office, trying to fix CA's fiscal crisis while Bush is running for president. The White House was lukewarm to the recall and with good reason. They half wanted Davis dealing (and failing to deal with) the problems there during the presidential campaign. It gave them a whisper of a chance in California. They got their Republican governor though. Can't wait to see him turn it all around.
So in summary, the only thing that may protect Arnold from a recall is either: 1) An immediate cessation of all of California's woes (yeah, and the US will have a budget surplus soon, too) ; 2) If many Democrats realize that a failing, highly visible, inexperienced Republican governor in the most populous State would lead to not only a Democratic governor at the next election, but maybe a Democratic President also. Why should Democrats have a problem with the recall?
...and just heard a report, about serious discussions by the Democrats in California regarding a potential recall effort. They say they have the money needed. We should just rename the State 'Hollywood'. ...and the saga continues...
Sure glad I don't live there anymore! As to whether it will benefit Bush in 2004, it all depends on Ahnold's performance. If he cannot pull California's economy out of the crapper by next year's election, it may have serious negative implications for Junior.
Maybe we need a poll. Would you prefer to see: 1) Arnold as full-term Governor 2) Another Terminator Movie Easy for me.
So, do you know where Stryia is? World Marvels at Schwarzenegger's Victory By VANESSA GERA, Associated Press Writer GRAZ, Austria - From an Internet chatroom in China to Arnold Schwarzenegger (news - web sites)'s boyhood home in Austria, the world marveled Wednesday at a uniquely American political triumph with more suspense than a Hollywood script. AP Photo AFP Slideshow: Calif. Recall Election After partying the night away, Austrian dignitaries and admirers in Schwarzenegger's home region celebrated his win by claiming him anew as one of their own. In a local bar, dozens mingled over a breakfast of scrambled eggs and coffee, breaking into cheers and applause when Schwarzenegger's victory speech — dubbed over into German — was broadcast live on big-screen TVs. "He's one of us," Waltraud Klasnic, the governor of Schwarzenegger's home province of Styria told reporters. "And this is going to push us a little bit more into the foreground on the international stage." "Many people in the world — and in America — now know where Styria is." Austria's leadership welcomed Schwarzenegger to politics. Schwarzenegger has "a large task ahead of him, and we are confident that he will succeed in bringing California out of the crisis," Austrian Chancellor Wolfgang Schuessel said in a congratulatory message. "His success, at first in sport, then professional and now political, shows America and the world what good workers Austrians are globally," Foreign Minister Benita Ferrero-Waldner said. Schwarzenegger's victory led the morning news programs in Russia. NTV television reported that "the third generation Terminator will lead the state," where it said voters believed in his promises to restore order after blaming outgoing Gov. Gray Davis (news - web sites) for economic problems. "Many still associate `Iron Arnie' with a hero who saves the world from the bad guys," NTV reported. In France, Interior Minister Nicolas Sarkozy said he had mixed feelings about Schwarzenegger's win, but acknowledged that it was a significant achievement. "Someone who's a foreigner in his country, who has an unpronounceable name and can become governor of the biggest American state — that's not nothing," Sarkozy told RTL radio. In communist China, where leaders aren't democratically elected and dissent isn't tolerated, several Internet users posted messages on a news commentary board at the popular Web site Sohu.com. "This cannot be imagined in China," said one, who did not sign the message. In Japan, television news gave the Hollywood star's victory top billing. "It's the American dream," said Hideya Sugio, the anchor of the evening news at TBS, a national network. Erik Aasard, head of the Swedish Institute for North American Studies at the University of Uppsala, said the outcome could be explained only by voter dissatisfaction with the economy. "The only way to explain this is not so much that Schwarzenegger is an attractive candidate — which he certainly is — but that the voters are enormously dissatisfied with the California administration, and especially the fact that the economy has been so bad for the past years," Aasard said. Back in Austria, Frank Bogen, a 73-year-old former diplomat, described how he spent the night listening to television updates on the race. Many here, Bogen said, feel a strong emotional connection to Schwarzenegger. "He has real friends here," Bogen said, adding that Schwarzenegger is also loved because of what he has done to promote the reputation — and the economy — of the region. During the filming of "Red Heat," Bogen recalled, Schwarzenegger insisted that snowy scenes be filmed in his alpine country. Other scenes were filmed in neighboring Hungary. "Even though he's a full-fledged American, he has never denied where he came from," he said. Schwarzenegger became a U.S. citizen in 1984. The breakfast celebration took place in downtown Graz — a historic city in southern Austria located just a few miles away from Schwarzenegger's boyhood home, Thal. The night before, hundreds of partygoers packed into the bar to cheer on Schwarzenegger. Chanting "Go, Arnie, Go!" from time to time, the revelers sipped "Gouvernator" and "Stars-and-Stripes" cocktails in the bar, which was decorated with "Join Arnold" campaign fliers and red, white and blue balloons. One partygoer, Lisa Anderwald, a 21-year old makeup artist whose family lives in the Schwarzenegger's former home, came to show her support for the man who got her a job working on special effects during the filming of "Terminator 3." "He's a hardworking man — and he really helped me," Anderwald said. Many at the Tuesday and Wednesday celebrations say they are even convinced that Schwarzenegger also has chances of becoming U.S. president one day if he sets his mind to it and the constitution is changed to allow foreign-born Americans to run. "If they ever change the Constitution, it would be for him," Bogen said. "And it would be proof that in American everything is possible." I'm shocked at the top-billing this is getting around the world. A positive...at least many see it as a realized American dream.
I'm sure the angry Dems with Money will get the ball rolling on another recall, it should be easy to get, what is it 850,000 sigs. But I imagine Arnold would win the recall just because people in California(enough respect to spell it right) would not want to go through another change. I'm a little confused with the process though. I mean, if you voted no to the recall, then you don't vote for a candidate, am I right? I must be wrong though because if you add the top 3 candidates, they have nearly 7 million people voting for them when only 4.2 million voted yes to the recall.
I don't understand that, either. I thought it was like you said here. I guess not, though. I'm surprised at the high turnout, though I guess this election was well publicized and very high profile. But I thought a higher turnout would help Davis rather than hurt him. Arnold is ending up with more votes than Davis got in the last regular election, but even the "NO" on the recall votes were higher than what Davis got in the last election. So, in a way, Davis did better in this election, vote-wise, than he did last year (if you assume that a "No" vote on the recall is essentially a vote for Davis).
It's easy? Wonder why no one could ever get it done before despite several efforts over the years. While the requirements for recall are not that high, I wouldn't characterize it as "easy" to get a recall in front of the voters.
