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Election Day 2020

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Master Baiter, Nov 3, 2020.

  1. NewRoxFan

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    Just outright lying...

     
  2. NewRoxFan

    NewRoxFan Contributing Member

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    trump simply views the United States Constitution for a door mat...

     
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  3. NewRoxFan

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    Yes! This company's business future was threatened by the frivolous unproven accusations by trump and his campaign... people will lose jobs and even fear for their safety because of the trump lies. Hope the courts provide restitution that punishes trump and his campaign and sends a clear signal to prevent this from happening again.

    Dominion Voting Systems Employee Sues Trump Campaign And Allies, Alleging Defamation
    https://www.npr.org/2020/12/22/9492...amation?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
     
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  4. rocketsjudoka

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    In fact Michigan stopped a group claiming to be electors from trying to get into the state house on the day the electors voted.
     
  5. NewRoxFan

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    LOL at the mention of "ethics". I didn't see anything that mentioned fumigation and process servers though...

     
  6. rocketsjudoka

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    The problem is how deep partisanship is that one party is so beholden and fearful of the President of their party. The failure here is that Representatives and Senators aren't willing to see themselves as part of a separate co-equal branch but subordinate to the President.
     
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  7. NewRoxFan

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    True... here's a proof point. Anyone with any integrity would decline rather sit there listening to trump complain and ask people to overturn the vote...

     
  8. NewRoxFan

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    LOL... since the news reported the White House email... the white house did a 180 and "took it back". Can the trump administration get any more pathetically incompetent and embarrassing?

     
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    Maybe they really like McDonalds?
     
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  10. SuraGotMadHops

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    I don't jump into the D&D very often, only recently with the 2020 election did I come in here. And what I've observed is that the name of the page should just be changed to "Liberal Hangout" because this has become a space for folks to just dump on everything Trump or GOP related. Any time a conservative point of view is expressed 20 - 30 people go on the attack. Yes, it's a debate thread but there's no respect for the conservative side, and that's a trend flowing through all of America right now. I think there is a lot of misunderstanding of where conservatives are coming from these days, I'm not here to argue, just present a point of view, and it can taken for what it is:

    - I find a lot of the criticism of the Trump administration to be "low information." In retrospect, when you look at his body of work as a President, policy-wise, he will go down as one of the most successful and productive presidents in American history, and possibly he will be the last truly "good" President we will have for awhile.

    - The main stream media (including all social media) is unabashedly left-biased and I think that causes the "low information" problem that leads to uninformed/ignorant criticism. It has pretty much been accepted now, Twitter bans certain speech, FB stamps its own opinion on what it considers disputed information, the news stopped airing the President's press briefings (including his DAILY Covid updates), and buried a Hunter Biden story, even going so far as censoring a 100 year old news agency. Censorship is dangerous folks. Free press is dead.

    - This election was very likely stolen, and nothing will be done about it, and not because of a lack of evidence, but because of a lack of procedure. The affected States are the ones that need to raise the issue with the Supreme Court, but they won't do it because the WANT the results (fraudulent or tainted as they may be) to stand.

    - The argument that Trump's efforts to overturn the election is an attack on democracy makes no sense. Ensuring that only legal votes are counted is the very opposite, it's protecting the most fundamental right of the American people. Trump supporters are treated as if they're some small handful of screwballs, and no person in their right mind would support this nutjob. Not the case. Over 70 million people voted for him, you can't get that much support if the very idea of supporting Trump makes you a whack job, a racist, a bigot, selfish, dumb, crazy, whatever. You can't have that many people turn out in the polls without a broad cross section of the population being included. There aren't 70 million toothless confederate toting A/R enthusiasts, likewise, there aren't 70 million affluent selfish pricks that only care about themselves. He got more votes this election than last election. His popularity increased after a job well done. In no reality did Biden get an unprecedented amount of votes. It did not happen, not legally.

    - Looking deeper, this isn't even necessarily a left vs right issue. It's a gov't at large vs. Trump issue, buttressed by a tech oligarch. The republican and democratic elite get heated with disagreements concerning policy, but at the end of the day they kick back and play nice. They both hate Trump because he never made decisions that were beholden to Wall Street (and by extension, China). There's a reason Pelosi was in Chinatown the day after Trump banned travel from China, then spent the next 8 months complaining Trump never acted soon enough or did enough. The elite in the gov't (left and right alike) don't give a damn about us common folk. Pelosi held up a much better Covid relief bill before the election strictly on the basis that Trump would not get credit. She then served us with a dookie sandwich and insists that it tastes good. Who's the person that came out last night and said the Covid bill is sh**? Trump did, good luck trying to find that video though.

    - The argument that Trump failed in his Covid relief efforts is also low information. Trump stood front and center, daily, fielding every question and explaining all efforts done that day in response to the virus. Mandated or not, lockdowns happened, masks happened. The country is masked up, but the virus is still spreading. States with the most stringent lockdown orders (CA, NY) continue to see cases climb. A vaccine, two of them, were developed and distributed in record time - some of the preventative measures are really just guessing, a vaccine is the most direct relief that could have been given, and now we have it.
     
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  11. Carl Herrera

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    Trump is pulling the reverse Harden— creating drama in an effort to not leave
     
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    Keep fighting the good fight brother.
     
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  13. NewRoxFan

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    LOL. TL/DR but here's my quick summary: D&D is filled with "liberals" that gang up and bully trump supporters. Trump is a great president. Deep state and other qanon conspiracies. Media has censored trump (his press conferences, his tweets, his facebook posts). trump has done an excellent job on COVID-19 response.

    This is all so far from reality I have to ask what the color is the sky in your world and how many moons? Although I get it... you are so heavily invested in trump that you will believe anything to justify that investment.
     
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    de·lu·sion·al
    /dəˈlo͞oZH(ə)nəl/
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    adjective
    1. characterized by or holding idiosyncratic beliefs or impressions that are contradicted by reality or rational argument, typically as a symptom of mental disorder.
      "hospitalization for schizophrenia and delusional paranoia"
      • based on or having faulty judgment; mistaken.
        "their delusional belief in the project's merits never wavers
     
  15. CCorn

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    Trump did show us you could be the president while only working part-time. That has to count for something.
     
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  16. SuraGotMadHops

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    The fact you started your post with "LOL" just proves my general point. Thank you.
     
  17. SuraGotMadHops

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    The fact you started your post with "de lu sion al" just proves my general point. Thank you.
     
  18. SuraGotMadHops

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    Low information take. Trump worked extremely hard, you want to see a President that does very little, wait until you see what Biden can do.
     
  19. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"

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    would you accept anything other than that which proved your point? You started your long post with the armor of declaring us all low-info liberals who would jump all over you. I mean, where is there to go exactly?
     
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    Link?
     
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