OK so let's assume Biden flips Wisconsin. He still needs Pennsylvania...and must not lose Nevada, where a lot of people lost their jobs due to lockdowns and might be swinging towards Trump. But I guess it's still open.
it’s a mystery to me too Did they already count all the mail-in ballots in PA, MI, and WI? Have most of the historically Democratic precincts or counties been tallied in those states? I don’t think so, but somebody correct me if I’m wrong.
Lots of the battleground states being determined by mail in votes or counts going into later in the week is really distressing. Trump will do everything he can to have them thrown out.
Yep, this seems to me to be very much a case of premature doomcasting from the blue side and premature gloating from the dark side. We won’t know the key state results until tomorrow at the earliest. Only one state has likely flipped from 2016 so far, and it’s AZ going blue. Not a landslide like Dems had hoped, but it’s hardly great news for Trump either. To be continued.
For all the criticism our system gets (some justified), the reality is it is incredibly competitive overall... blowouts are rare.... blowouts of incumbents are extremely rare... couple that with a strong economy pre-Covid and the populism of Trump.... and this was ALWAYS going to be a tight election.
its cute how the news channels are so QUICK to call states for biden, but wont when trump is up 5 to 6% in some states.. PATHETIC
PA is 20 electoral votes. AZ is 11 and WI is 10. Those states neutralize PA. Then it goes to MI to decide providing everything else holds.
Yeah everything is going okay still. How people here said to me that without Covid Trump woudn't win anyway? I see that without the massive voting campaign he would win even WITH Covid.
These states that stop counting for the night are ****ing pathetic. Everyone in the country has pulled an all nighter for work before. Drink some coffee and get to work.
Biden needs to win either Michigan or PA. It appears Wis and Arizona will break towards Biden. GA still a question mark. NC looks to be barely Trump. Every other state appears to be heading to be the same as 2016.
I understand there is a lot of wringing of hands and gnashing of teeth on one side and popping champagne corks on the other but this was always a big possibility that we wouldn't know tonight or possible for days who won this election.
Look expecting Trump to repeat what he did and win any of those states he won by 1% is expecting texas to flip to Biden. Anybody that lives in Texas knew that Texas was not a battleground state. Also Trump is winning these Sunbelt states sometimes barely winning them, which is fine but that doesn't mean that he is going to be competitive in states that he flipped 4 years ago. Again, Trump still needs to defend nc and ga so this isn't 2016 all over again. The media though did make it seem like there were so many states that were traditionally Republican namely Texas that had a chance to go to biden and everybody knew that one going to happen.
