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Election 2008

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by mc mark, Sep 17, 2008.

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  1. DonnyMost

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    You're starting to inch your way into TJ territory by doing the whole "Since he isn't doing X, he MUST BE doing Y" dance (i.e. he isn't lifting tons of debris off Galveston Island with his immense mental powers, therefor he must be pissing on the ruin of middle class people displaced by the storm by raising money for his campaign)

    It's really stupid, IROC, and it degrades this whole forum. Rise up.
     
  2. pgabriel

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    this is what you're regulated to when you support mcsame. you have no real issues
     
  3. rimrocker

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    Speaking of McCain, he and Palin had time before the Repub Convention to visit Mississippi before Gustav. Did he do the same for Texas?

    And speaking of Obama, here's the front page to his site...

    http://www.barackobama.com/index.php

    Even days after the event, the first thing one sees on a web page devoted to a presidential candidate is a call to help those affected by Ike.

    Here's McCain's page... you have to click on a tab to get to Ike stuff...

    http://www.johnmccain.com/
     
  4. Rocketman95

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    I guess you missed McCain's 50k a plate fundraiser the night before?

    Or is that OK because they're not celebs? :rolleyes:
     
  5. DonnyMost

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    I'm sure IROC would love to get into a tit for tat about who is funding who.

    Almost 50% of Obama's total fundraising has come from donations UNDER $200.

    Only 27% of McCain's have come from the same territory, with the vast majority of his donations coming in at over $1000.

    So you tell me, is a middle class person chipping in $50... or $1000?
     
  6. rimrocker

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    Really?

    Edit: Add this one...

     
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  7. fadeaway

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    As a so-called "foreigner" I just have to say that if you folks don't get your act together and vote in a democrat this time, then there's no hope for you. After 8 years of the GWB debacle, I can't believe the race is as close as it is. It should really be a no-brainer.
     
  8. El_Conquistador

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    Expect the Latino vote to look nothing like how they are being polled. From my vantage point, I can tell you that Latinos, inside the privacy of a voting booth, will not be Obama's biggest fan.
     
  9. Bandwagoner

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    McCain has a better record for illegal immgration does he not?

    I remember thats why I did not like him but I guess it might help with hispanics.
     
  10. Bandwagoner

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    As a so called american I wish you would just take care of your own country instead of telling us how to run ours.
     
  11. DonnyMost

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    We're pretty good at running other people's countries, right?
     
  12. gifford1967

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    Obama has lost the Mexican industrialist vote.
     
  13. mc mark

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    I think Fadeaway (like most of the world) makes some valid points.
     
  14. mc mark

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    The Palin bump is over.

    That was McCain's last bullet.

    He has nothing left.
     
  15. Major

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    Never assume the latest twist and turn is the last twist and turn. We're still in the early stages of the campaign here. Plenty of time for either candidate to do something stupid or a big event to change the storyline.
     
  16. El_Conquistador

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    We will look back on this post and laugh heartily. There's a lot more left, friend. A LOT
     
  17. mc mark

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    It would have to be a big event, because the Obama campaign is too disciplined to do something stupid. But you're right; I won't get cocky and will continue with my phone bank duties.

    ;)
     
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    Couple of things here -

    #1 - I don't know that it has to be a huge event. Remember, most people started paying attention to this election about 3 weeks ago. We've been talking for nearly a year, but the swing voters will be affected pretty heavily by the debates, for example. And McCain benefits from low expectations (as did Bush).

    #2 - Obama's made his share of gaffes - the "clinging to guns and religion" comes to mind.

    #3 - Any kind of international incident could change the race - Obama still falls short in the "who do you trust on international affairs" question.

    #4 - The race is so close - you're talking about swing states with 1-3 pt margins. That could be affected by turnout, advertising, etc.

    Unfortunately, I don't think we know anything more today than a week ago or two weeks ago, despite the slight upticks in polls. Obama has to stay on the offensive for the next 50 days - that's hard to do. Up until this past week, he's been pretty much stuck on the defensive. We'll see if it's just fluke or if he learned something.
     
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    And I've noticed he hasn't responded. It's taking a lot to spin this one.
     
  20. mc mark

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    Take the bet Dork!
     

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