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Either start Lin, or bring in a new starting PG, Bev ain't cuttin' it.

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by OldfanofTmac, Dec 13, 2013.

  1. Hous-TO-n

    Hous-TO-n Member

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    That's why Harden played in fatigue and constantly got hurt?
    How do you think Harden will be back to factory for major replacement
    if he kept playing like this?

    the rotation is mysterious right now but the fans only short sight seeing
     
  2. gene18

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    You are misunderstanding me. There is only one ball if Lin does very well he will not upstage Harde,but Harden's stats will go down as he will get fewer touches. I guess you have never played competitive basketball. No player wants to get fewer touches. If he gets fewer touches his PPG might will most likely decrease. If he fall below or just AT 20PPG. he might be off the daily lists of the leading scores that the NBA and ESPN publishes. That's like a movie star getting much less publicity. Let me make it clear. Lin will not upstage Harden and Harden is a much better player than Lin and everybody know it. However, Harden, as with any all star, wants the public to have it impressed in there minds and if he loses touches his PPG will go down. PPG is what most people look at to gage a player according tp David Berri the author of The wages of Wins. He is a real student of the game and Knows Morey as they are both at top notch anlytical people and speak at the same confrences.
    The sociology of of basketball is facinating. Don't shove it under the rug.
     
  3. gene18

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    Pardon the grammer and misspelling i am writing this from work can't check them.
     
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    Sad how Lin is injured all season , barely shooting good %, turnover machine AND YET people show up to this forum to bad mouth Beverly which happens to be the player taking up the slack on perimeter defense and rebounding. It makes no damn difference what any of you think ! Mchale wants a competent defender at the pg position and that's what he has. Opposing pg's are being shut down by bev which is what mchale wants. Apparently people here don't care about defense and think popularity should determine rotation. Glad coaches recognize the value of players
     
  5. Yetti

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    A Point Guard is firstly a playmaker and secondly a scorer.Y:p
    ( just in case you have recently been duped)
     
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    I'm not sure I would consider that his primary "instinct". But moreso - a lot his assists were predicated on his scoring ability - which opened things up for Novak, Chandler, etc. If you look at those Knick games, he was trying to create opportunities for the team. The players improved with him attacking.

    Harden's primary instinct is to look for his shot (which he should since he's good at it). Which is also why I think he should not be the "main" point guard.

    I think some of the problem may just be McHale's handling of point guards in general. For whatever reasons, Lowry and Goran both left. Lin is probaby leaving now too. By whatever standards, that is 3 pretty solid point guards. Maybe McHale wants a Dennis Johnson type. Getting Rondo, CP3, or whoever may just become even more of a waste of salary and talent.
     
  7. Rockets590

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    I am also curious. What kind of point guard does Mchale even want? Lowy, Dragic, and now Lin may be on their way out. I would like Lin to start because i love when 2 people can attack the rim and pick up fouls. I understand the reasoning to start Bev but the minutes need to distributed fairly. I think it can be agreed that we needed defense and some scoring. Lin could have defnitily provided some scoring and maybe jumpstarted the team.
     
  8. dobro1229

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    Anyone else concerned about how Lin's style of play and his insistence on going for hard contact in the paint & not being able to fall correctly might lend to Lin maintaining a very high injury prone career long term?

    Same concerns to a lesser extent about Harden, but he seems to absorb contact very well with excellent core balance. His ankles obviously will continue to be an issue if he still insists on wearing low tops. Not as concerned about him falling and taking contact as much. Seems to fall more like a pro skater or no boarder as well. Lin does not. He falls BAD.

    However Lin moving forward as an oft injured player concerns me about relying on him long term. Unfortunately this year they really are relying on him big time to do alot off the bench, and be the 2nd perimeter playing option. Him staying healthy this season is almost a must.
     
  9. Falcao

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    Dude, Lin will be gone within a week.
     
  10. cw3k

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    I wouldn't worry about Harden, he is one of the best flopper in the league.
     
  11. dobro1229

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    And you know this cause.........

    I haven't seen one legit report out there that they are actively trying to move him. And no Hahn is not a legit source... the radio clip sounded more speculative than anything.

    If you Rockets fans are hoping or expecting him to be gone this week you are probably going to be very disappointed. Now in February, or this Summer.... possibly, but not in December attached to the Asik deal.
     
  12. Razsan

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    Sad how you minimize Lin's numbers when Harden has a MUCH lower shooting percentage and turns the ball over at the same rate per minute played as Jeremy. Should we get a great perimeter defender and re-bounder to replace Harden????
     
  13. SamFisher

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    No because Harden is much better than Lin, which is why Lin is back-up SG.
     
  14. bws

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    There was one I remember in a game Lin scored above 30 I believe. But it should be happening with regularity. Smith and Lin get into some nice PnR but how often are they playing together?
     
  15. bws

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    Well, not always. That's not true of Rose, Irving and quite a few others. Curry too. They are looked at as scorers that do some playmaking. Guys like Chris Paul will score but he's a playmaker first, same with Nash.
     
  16. KlutchQT

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    I think a lot of LOFs and LOHs alike are about to be very disappointed. I don't think he's going anywhere.
     
  17. bws

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    It's OK if Beverley starts and Lin gets in by the 5 minute mark Q1. But it shouldn't go too far beyond that. Harden playing almost the whole first quarter isn't good either. Lin needs time with Howard so McHale has to figure that out too. Lin was averaging 30 minutes until the injury or close to it. So it isn't the minutes but more the pairings and overuse of Harden that I think is a problem. The team definitely misses Lin's penetration and ability to get fouls and assists when he's out. It's not the same with Parsons or the times Brooks does it.
     
  18. bws

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    And will you never bring it up if it doesn't happen, Dude? Enough with people's predictions already.
     
  19. TheJet

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    Driving = Not all athleticism.
    Passing/Asst = Not all athleticism.
    Basketball IQ = Not athleticism at all.
    Defense = Not all athleticism.

    OP said Lin was a superior athlete, not a superior player. Lin is clearly a better overall player. I wasn't debating that.
     
  20. TheJet

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    I left out shooting, but you get the point.
     

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