i agree. but i do not believe he is a longtime fan. Did anybody see any post from YouandMe that wasn't negative???? do not even try to fnd a positive post, because there is no one. He just tries to get under people's skin, and i get the impression it is working. i woudn't mind if he is banned
LOL!! That's the problem with having too many young players. You don't know where they stand. EG could either be a good player or end up and become a inconsistent player like he is right now. I find it also fun putting down another player if they sux. That's where it's all fun and get people talking and thinking. So what do you people want? Us praising good thing about every players even if they aren't living up to it? Only EG fans are backing him up but in reality, the guy ISN'T GOOD ENOUGHT TO START!!!! The kid is young so he should be riding the bench some more and learn and hopefully that will motivate him to improve if he wants to start!! Put in Kato or Posey over EG and see what happen! What do we got to lose? I thought Rudy is still experimenting?
I don't always agreed with YouandMe but at least he's got the guts to say some truth when most people are afraid to get bashing from fans. SOme people here just CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!!!
Whenever I read stuff about people enjoying putting down people, I think of two things: 1. If you were standing in front of the guy, I seriously doubt you'd be saying, "Man, you are such a loser. You suck! HA HA!" Given that you wouldn't be bold enough to say it to the man's face, I find it really weak that you would do it behind his back. 2. The Seinfeld episode where Jerry went to the woman's office and heckled her while she worked. It's amazing how easy it is to take pot shots at guys doing their job when no one is coming to our job to go, "Nice work, idiot! You call that filing?" I'm not saying that criticism isn't warranted or that we shouldn't do it. I do it too. I'm just saying taking joy in other people sucking is fairly disengenuous unless you are willing to do it in person or take the same thing right back.
Off the subject, but that episode is my all time favorite. In fact, it was just on last night on the WB.
With Posey we loose Eddies ability to stretch defenses with his 3 point shooting threat and Eddies strongest suit , shotblocking. Posey has no strengths that would be better at pf ..Eddie is better at everything as a big man. The one thing that Posey has that Eddie doesn't is aggressiveness, when Eddie gets it,,it probably takes him to the next level. Cato has no offensive game at all away from the basket. On D ..do you really want to see Kelvin come out 10ft from the basket on Malone, Webber, Duncan, etc. ? If some big guy was abusing Eddie on post-ups..you might want to bring Cato in, but I havent seen much of that.
The Blazers thought the same thing when they let O'Neal go - http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3/3120/
Good point. I don't think there's anyone on here who won't agree that J. O'Neal is one of the game premier players, but he didn't do squat until his 5th year. People still condier him a rising young star in this league because he's only 24. If our fans would only give that same level of respect to our own players- EG and Franchise included, maybe they'd develope a better confidence in their own game and speed up the development/learning process a bit.
I was reading this thread and when I got to this post, I realized everything posted after it (including my own post) is pointless. NIKEstrad, you just won the argument. Game over. Sorry YouandMe. (troll)
So what is your point? You say you do it to? So what the hell you want me to do? We are inside a forum for god sake!! I don't find anything wrong with it taking it to a player who isn't doing his job. I don't find anything is wrong with it if a guy is a jerk for example: Barkley; Shaq(about Yao); and some idiots posters who deserve it! By the way, they(NBA) are getting paid millions to do their job and like they don't give a **** about what we say about them. It's a forum for god sake and alot of people are taking advantage of certain thing and I haven't gone overboard so don't lecture me when you yourself say you've done it too! Practice what you Preach
I said I criticize. I did not say I take JOY in the travails of others. You said you LIKE to make fun of people. There is a difference between being critical of someone and outright laughing at him. I do practice what I preach but you haven't been around here long enough to know that.
Take it easy on Jeff dude... do you realize who that guy is? We owe this whole freakin' site to him, clutch, and the rest of the crew. Hell, if it weren't for Jeff, the Rockets may not be in Houston!
Ok Jeff, you've made your point. But don't get me wrong. I'm not saying that I'll stoop down that low when making fun of a person but if that person or player(s) deserve it(or whatever that bring it out), it will be in good taste of fun. But when push come to shove...
How about I am sick of you talking about the Rockets. You think EG is horrible you talk about Ming not being better than someone else. Just shut up meandyou, youandme, youandI or whatever your name is.
Of course I know who he is. I'm not going out of line or anything. You can't always have YES people all the time.
I obviously don't post very much...and im relatively new to this forum (though i have been visiting cc.net for a long time)..but i'd just like to point out that you should probably cool it a little when talking to a member of the clutch crew. As the name has the word "clutch" in it...as well as this site...it shouldn't take a genius to figure out he's probably important and that you would likely want to talk to him with more respect. Also, as Jeff has already said, it seems that you take pride in putting down others for the sake of putting them down (to which Jeff objects) instead of contructively criticizing them.
I believe Nikestrad has summarized most people's thoughts. Any reaction, either positve or negative, is a function of expectation. I don't expect that much from EG given his stage of development, so I'm not that bummed. There's another unofficial sub-thread here phsyco-analyzing YouandMe. I believe his opinion isn't way off; it's just masked with a little hyperbole. He expects a little bit more from our PF position, which we can't blame him for. Do you guys remember what Bill Walton had to say about EG in the last nationally televised game? He just ripped into Eddie in ways I thought wasn't fair...so my point is that a negative reaction to EG's game isn't unprecented. Beyond the numbers, I've seen some flashes in his offensive game that keep me optimistic...some inside scores...willingness to blend in with his teammates...confidence to shoot it from outside on consecutive possessions... Defensively he has what you can't teach--amazing timing on block shots. Shot-blocking is held at a premium in this league. It's a game breaking ability. I've also seen EG get some of the tougher rebounds--offensive and defensive. As RudyT once said ~when EG goes up for a rebound, it's his because of his talent level. What EG needs is consistency and with time he'll get it. I'll leave it at that for now.
This might sound funny to some but I still think Griffin has more potienial to be a better player than Amare in the future even though his stats may not compare. Once Griffin finds his confidence and shot he's going to be very good. Many haven't really got a chance to see griffin naturally play when he's comfortable hes very fluid in posting up and has many moves downlow with turnarounds, fake, spins but in regular season games he's not using these moves because he's not strong enough yet. He's not very confident in games either shooting way too early and half the time looks scared to shoot it, but when he gets more experience those shots are going to fall, he really has a great touch from the outside, may be one of the best I have ever seen, in warms ups I've seen he hits more than not 8 out of every 10 from 20ft and out. Right now I don't think Griffin can play any worse than he is, and he still playing alright now. In time Griffin could be one of the top 10-15 rebounders and top 5-7 shot blockers in the NBA one day. Remember he's still a project not a finish product, not to mention his body isn't even fully developed yet, just give him time and being 20 years old is a legit reason for his inconsistent playing in my opinion.
