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Effective World Government Will Be Needed to Stave Off Climate Catastrophe

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Hightop, Mar 22, 2012.

  1. Hightop

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    Behavioral changes need to be mandated or there will be no future.

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    By Gary Stix | March 17, 2012

    http://blogs.scientificamerican.com...l-be-needed-to-stave-off-climate-catastrophe/

    Almost six years ago, I was the editor of a single-topic issue on energy for Scientific American that included an article by Princeton University’s Robert Socolow that set out a well-reasoned plan for how to keep atmospheric carbon dioxide concentrations below a planet-livable threshold of 560 ppm. The issue came replete with technical solutions that ranged from a hydrogen economy to space-based solar.

    If I had it to do over, I’d approach the issue planning differently, my fellow editors permitting. I would scale back on the nuclear fusion and clean coal, instead devoting at least half of the available space for feature articles on psychology, sociology, economics and political science. Since doing that issue, I’ve come to the conclusion that the technical details are the easy part. It’s the social engineering that’s the killer. Moon shots and Manhattan Projects are child’s play compared to needed changes in the way we behave.

    A policy article authored by several dozen scientists appeared online March 15 in Science to acknowledge this point: “Human societies must now change course and steer away from critical tipping points in the Earth system that might lead to rapid and irreversible change. This requires fundamental reorientation and restructuring of national and international institutions toward more effective Earth system governance and planetary stewardship.”

    The report summarized 10 years of research evaluating the capability of international institutions to deal with climate and other environmental issues, an assessment that found existing capabilities to effect change sorely lacking. The authors called for a “constitutional moment” at the upcoming 2012 U.N. Conference on Sustainable Development in Rio in June to reform world politics and government. Among the proposals: a call to replace the largely ineffective U.N. Commission on Sustainable Development with a council that reports to the U.N. General Assembly, at attempt to better handle emerging issues related to water, climate, energy and food security. The report advocates a similar revamping of other international environmental institutions.

    Unfortunately, far more is needed. To be effective, a new set of institutions would have to be imbued with heavy-handed, transnational enforcement powers. There would have to be consideration of some way of embracing head-in-the-cloud answers to social problems that are usually dismissed by policymakers as academic naivete. In principle, species-wide alteration in basic human behaviors would be a sine qua non, but that kind of pronouncement also profoundly strains credibility in the chaos of the political sphere. Some of the things that would need to be contemplated: How do we overcome our hard-wired tendency to “discount” the future: valuing what we have today more than what we might receive tomorrow? Would any institution be capable of instilling a permanent crisis mentality lasting decades, if not centuries? How do we create new institutions with enforcement powers way beyond the current mandate of the U.N.? Could we ensure against a malevolent dictator who might abuse the power of such organizations?

    Behavioral economics and other forward-looking disciplines in the social sciences try to grapple with weighty questions. But they have never taken on a challenge of this scale, recruiting all seven billion of us to act in unison. The ability to sustain change globally across the entire human population over periods far beyond anything ever attempted would appear to push the relevant objectives well beyond the realm of the attainable. If we are ever to cope with climate change in any fundamental way, radical solutions on the social side are where we must focus, though. The relative efficiency of the next generation of solar cells is trivial by comparison.
     
  2. Depressio

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    Picture of Obama in OP.

    Ctrl+F: Obama.

    None found.

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  3. Rashmon

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    Finally someone gets it. Let's make it happen. Thanks for posting this highcrop.
     
  4. Kyrodis

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    Since when does a magazine opinion piece with no mention of Obama automatically signify an imminent shift to an Obama-led 1984-esque dystopia?
     
  5. QdoubleA

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    Yo, you be a idiot Hightop. There has to be something more than just dislike of his government policies for you to make this much of an ass out of yourself on a consistent basis.
     
  6. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"

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    Since Obama's secret police messed with the secret thorazine dosage in Thighhigh's cereal flakes?
     
  7. glynch

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    We can't take steps to control climate change or have any regulations of pollution or carbon. It is not permitted. We can only hope that Ron Paul and the completely free market will save us.

    Anything else is not permitted in their theology.

    It is interesting to see the merging of the concept of submitting to the will of God and submitting to the eternal law of The Market.
     
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    global warming is far and distant.

    so is peak oil.

    sleep, children and sheep.

    the free market will provide
     
  9. Cohete Rojo

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    Are you saying global warming is distant or are you saying global warming's potentially harmful effects are distant? I tend to think the first is false and the second is true.

    As for peak oil, I think it is a far greater concern than rising ocean levels, warmer climate and an ice capped England. More energy should be focused on peak oil - an eminent possiblity - than climate change. I know the two go together because of the tie in to hydrocarbons - but eliminating coal plants to reduce greenhouse emmissions does nothing to address peak oil.

    However, we live in a consumer driven economy and prices will be the ultimate determining factor. Every time I read or hear someone talk about fighting climate change I think they should really be saying something about peak oil.
     
  10. Northside Storm

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    No, I'm saying we need to abolish the environment. That's the problem! It's the one federal agency that keeps on taking our jobs.
     

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