Though I disagree with you a lot in D&D, at least there I respect your opinions. As for basketball, I would say you are proving yourself to be far less knowledgeable on that subject. EG has skills, and if his head is right, his talent will show through. DD
Absolutely. If he does that either this year or next, pick your donation, Signature change, tipjar donation, whatever you want. DaDakota, if you think I'm wrong and my opinion is unworthy of respect, you can get in on this action too.
DD...I don't see the value in attacking the poster rather than the post or the argument therein if said poster hasn't himself done otherwise. Course you may not see the value in giving a flying leap about what I do and do not see value in, so what're you gonna do?
Signature change should be fine (especially since I work at a community college and the wife just had a new baby...not much $ in the Moon household these days).
I didn't mean to put any financial strain on the moonie household. I'll put a hundred in the TJar if he does that, and I'll put two hundred in if he goes 18-10-2 or better. It's fine because I have no family and would otherwise just spend the money on drinking. And you get my signature for the offseason after he does it. 60 games, (in one season) 13-8-2 (that same season), If only one of those things happens, it's a push. If not, I get your signature for 6 months.
Robert Horry and Donyell Marshall have develop niches based on this. EG hitting 33% from 3 is just as good, maybe better (by also opening up space for Tmac or Yao), than hitting 50% from non 3 point land. Heck if EG improves to just 35%, that is not someone you cannot leave open without losing on the percentages. Personally though, I'd rather have EG concentrate on blocking shots, rebounding and running the floor and not that 3 pointer though. Exactly. Though personally I think Sam has better odds to win any bet--the odds are against EG becoming a "good NBA player". But this is true for all but the surest of prospects in the league. That said, you are not going to find many FAs who will play for the mimimum, who you can cut if their any problems, with his kind of talent. If you think guys with EG's overall length, athleticsm and timing are a dime a dozen I don't think you are being very critical of basketball players throughout the planet, because despite his deficiences when asked to be a regular 4 in the toughest conference in the toughest league in the world at 21 years old, he was a top 20 or so shot blocker in the world just 2 years ago. You might as well bring him to camp based on talent. If he is derailed in being even a marginal NBA player it is because of his mental makeup and decision making, but there is a better chance of that improving than a less talented guy increasing his height, length or quickness to NBA standards.
Mayhaps it was the following post that had gotten me to question his reputation..... Seems bush league to me, and we all know how much Sam likes the president. DD
So are you in or are you out? Put your judgment up against mine if you think I'm wrong. Andy did it, the offer is open to you if you want in. Or choose your own odds, if they're agreeable, we'll see who's right. I'm betting against him, you think I'm wrong to do that. This is the perfect opportunity for you to test your hypothesis.
I will be happy to have a bet with you, if the Rockets sign Griffin. Let's see what happens and then set the terms. A may even pay the tip jar if I win.... DD
"If" the Rockets sign him? That's a cop-out. If you're confident enough to say that I don't know what the hell I am talking about when I say he has no future in the NBA, then get in on it now.
It's not a copout if EG gets picked up by the Mavericks and comes off the bench as a valued role-player.
so what's the deal guys, did the Rockets ask Eddie Griffen to come back like the post starter suggests ?
The Mavericks neither want nor need to pick up EG. I'm amazed that this thread has gone 8 pages - that's 8 pages of discussion over a guy who washed himself out of the league. My feelings on EG are well known here so I won't go into them because of what's happened to SamFisher but I'm curious as to why people here still cling to the belief that he can play. IMHO, the Eddie Griffin that you folks want to welcome back with open arms - Eddie Griffin the dynamic power forward - does not exist. In fact, I not sure he ever existed except in Rocket press releases and everyone's imagination. I agree with SamFisher that he's no longer a viable option for this team and that they (Rockets) really need to be about the business of getting a true PF (sorry but Juwann Howard does not qualify) that will allow them to be more competative in their division.
The point is, it's foolish to enter into any bet involving Eddie's performance ON THE ROCKETS unless he's signed BY THE ROCKETS. The bet seems heavily dependent on numbers, and those numbers were based on the assumption that Eddie would be wearing a Rockets uni this season. It's not a copout, Sam. The point is, you put your head on the block by making definitive statements about the Eddie's future based on his performance at the age of 19. Jermaine O'Neal was riding the bench, Kobe was airballing threes, and Tracy McGrady was living in the shadow of Vince Carter at that age. You appear stubborn enough to continue to uphold this ridiculous tirade, but you're only making yourself look more foolish in the eyes of the masses.
I'm amazed that you took that literally. It was merely an example of a scenario where Eddie would not be on the Rockets, and therefore, this bet would not apply.
