1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Ecuador / Venezuela Mobilizing Batallions Against Colombia

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Rox_fan_here, Mar 2, 2008.

  1. Bandwagoner

    Bandwagoner Member

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2006
    Messages:
    27,105
    Likes Received:
    3,756
    hopefully before war we will have our border secure so we don't get much overspill.
     
  2. Bandwagoner

    Bandwagoner Member

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2006
    Messages:
    27,105
    Likes Received:
    3,756
    I never wonder. Its because we have air conditioning.
     
  3. gifford1967

    gifford1967 Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2003
    Messages:
    8,306
    Likes Received:
    4,653
    Someone's auditioning to join tj in the clown car.
     
  4. pippendagimp

    pippendagimp Member

    Joined:
    Sep 1, 2000
    Messages:
    27,768
    Likes Received:
    22,756
    How many assclowns can you fit in a Ford Econoline? :D
     
  5. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2002
    Messages:
    35,985
    Likes Received:
    36,839
    RG, best wishes to you and your family. Please do not take too seriously people who get to act like six-year olds behind their computers and anonymity. I also encourage you to use the "ignore" list function, so certain posters will not appear to you. :)

    One reason this is my only BBS is the fascinating international community we have. I did not know we were represented in Columbia!

    When I was a wee little scientist, I had a collaborator in Israel, a mentor really. We were exchanging emails (in the earliest days of email, actually) about our research topic, and there was a long pause, and then he described huddling with his family on the living room floor, with everyone wearing gas masks. I just try to remember that everytime our horrible news media tries to make a little video game out of problems far from our (for now) comfortable homes.

    Anyway, best wishes to you.
     
  6. Deckard

    Deckard Blade Runner
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Mar 28, 2002
    Messages:
    57,785
    Likes Received:
    41,212
    Couldn't agree more, B-Bob. One thing this election business has done is bring some folks to D&D that otherwise might not have popped in, and this business with Chavez, Columbia, and Ecuador has pulled in Rocket Guard. I hope they stick around and broaden the discussions from the "usual suspects." (I include myself in the lineup, of course!)




    Impeach Bush and Save Us from being Force Fed Canadian Bacon!!! :mad:
     
  7. jo mama

    jo mama Member

    Joined:
    Jul 9, 2002
    Messages:
    14,585
    Likes Received:
    9,098
    yeah dude, war is totally awesome! :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
     
  8. Ottomaton

    Ottomaton Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2000
    Messages:
    19,193
    Likes Received:
    15,352
    It will be interesting to see if this more than just the next level of insult in the currently escalating war of words.

    After the Colombians said they had documents on Chavez/FARC ties, Venezuela said they had documents that showed that the Colombian police chief is a narco-trafficker so this might be more back and forth. But given that Chavez and the FARC have both expressed mutual philosophical kinship in the past, and Chavez has described the killed rebels as "good revolutionaries" I don't think it is a completely absurd idea to think that Chavez might be giving significant material support to the FARC.

    [rquoter]
    Uribe to denounce Chavez in court in Andes crisis

    BOGOTA (Reuters) - Colombian President Alvaro Uribe said on Tuesday he would denounce Venezuela's Hugo Chavez in international court in a growing Andean dispute after Venezuela and Ecuador cut diplomatic ties with Bogota and ordered troops to their neighbor's frontier.

    Colombia has accused Chavez and Ecuador's President Rafael Correa of links to the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia or FARC guerrillas and the crisis was triggered by a raid by Colombian troops inside Ecuador to kill a top guerrilla boss.

    "Colombia proposes to denounce the President of Venezuela Hugo Chavez in the International Criminal Court for sponsoring and financing genocide," Uribe told reporters.

    Venezuela began restricting Colombian commercial traffic on some points on its frontier as the crisis began to take its toll on the $6-billion-a-year bilateral trade between the two countries, witnesses and businesses in Venezuela said.

    Latin American countries scrambled to defuse the spat, which threatened regional stability. The Organization of the American States (OAS), the region's top diplomatic body, was to meet in Washington to press for a peaceful solution.

    Correa arrived in Peru on Tuesday to start a five-nation tour of the region -- including to leftist ally Venezuela -- to lobby for support against what he calls a premeditated violation of sovereignty.

    "This is not a bilateral problem, it's a regional problem," Correa told Mexican television. "Should this set a precedent, Latin America will become another Middle East."

    Latin American governments generally lined up to condemn Uribe, a key Washington ally, for sending troops and warplanes over the border on Saturday in an attack on a jungle camp that killed Raul Reyes, a senior FARC rebel.

    U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon urged the three countries to exercise restraint and address their concerns "in the spirit of dialogue and cooperation that has traditionally characterized their relations," his spokeswoman said in a statement issued in Geneva just before he left for New York.

    Major powers such as France and the United States, as well as U.S. presidential candidates, also urged diplomacy to defuse the tensions.

    Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez, who has negotiated the release this year of rebel hostages, called the guerrilla leader's death a "cowardly assassination" by a U.S.-backed president who did not want more captives freed.

    Chavez and Correa expelled Colombia's diplomats from their capitals on Monday.

    Colombia also fueled the tensions by accusing Chavez of funding Latin America's oldest insurgency -- a charge denied by the anti-U.S. president's aides.

    Despite the three leaders' brinkmanship and the risk of military missteps, political analysts said a conflict was unlikely on borders that stretch from parched desert through Andean mountains and jungles to the Pacific Ocean.

    Chavez, the leader of a growing bloc of Latin American leftist presidents, may fire up his supporters by challenging Uribe but he can ill afford to lose food imports from Colombia as he combats shortages in his OPEC nation, analysts said.

    [/rquoter]

    source
     
  9. Bandwagoner

    Bandwagoner Member

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2006
    Messages:
    27,105
    Likes Received:
    3,756
    whenever it does not involve my friends having their legs blown off it is.

    War is a given. I am allowed to be happy if the next one does not involve people I know or my country.
     
  10. gifford1967

    gifford1967 Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2003
    Messages:
    8,306
    Likes Received:
    4,653
    If you're a sociopath.
     
  11. thumbs

    thumbs Member

    Joined:
    Apr 11, 2002
    Messages:
    10,225
    Likes Received:
    237
    It's okay to be a sociopath as long as you are comformist. :rolleyes: Playing violent video games is okay.
     
  12. Apollo Creed

    Apollo Creed Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Aug 25, 2001
    Messages:
    4,449
    Likes Received:
    3
    Come on man, are you r****ded?

    Playing a GAME is not the same thing as enjoying the deaths of thousands of people. Countless lives would be lost and many lives that remained would be in shambles.
     
  13. Bandwagoner

    Bandwagoner Member

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2006
    Messages:
    27,105
    Likes Received:
    3,756
    "Only the dead have seen the end of war"

    So I am hoping the next one does not involve USA. (infact that would be awesome)
     
  14. Apollo Creed

    Apollo Creed Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Aug 25, 2001
    Messages:
    4,449
    Likes Received:
    3

    I think most of us on this board feel that way. But I imagine 99 percent of us draw the line at actually wanting a war to happen, or looking forward to one.
     
  15. gifford1967

    gifford1967 Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2003
    Messages:
    8,306
    Likes Received:
    4,653
    wha....
     
  16. Bandwagoner

    Bandwagoner Member

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2006
    Messages:
    27,105
    Likes Received:
    3,756
    Ideally that would be the case but looking at the ratings of cops, UFC, Medal of Honor, and 24hour coverage of wars it seems we are all blood thirsty.
     
  17. Apollo Creed

    Apollo Creed Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Aug 25, 2001
    Messages:
    4,449
    Likes Received:
    3
    Trashy TV, mixed martial arts, a video game, and the news means we're all blood thirsty?
     
  18. Bandwagoner

    Bandwagoner Member

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2006
    Messages:
    27,105
    Likes Received:
    3,756
    in the sense that most enjoy watching violent things.

    Unless you disagree (didn;t a russian kill you in front of thousands of people?)
     
  19. Apollo Creed

    Apollo Creed Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Aug 25, 2001
    Messages:
    4,449
    Likes Received:
    3
    But did Rocky kill Ivan Drago?

    Hell no.

    That's America, baby. We don't kill you, but we beat you until you love us.
     
  20. Rox_fan_here

    Rox_fan_here Member

    Joined:
    Jun 2, 2003
    Messages:
    2,022
    Likes Received:
    128

    Im in Colombia right now. I have been living the majority of my life here for the past 2 years and much of my family is here. I just wanted to pose a question Casey.

    If the US was on the brink of war (on its own soil) and a Colombian expressed "happiness" at fact that there would be great media coverage of the war that could ensue knowing many of your family and friends lives could be lost, and "legs blown off" how would you take that? What makes your family and my family so different, their geographical location? Even though I do not know your family personally I could never even imagine myself gleeful at the thought of seeing them suffer injury or death.

    I understand war is inevitable many times, but it is one thing to realize this and accept it many times detesting it, but it is another thing entirely to feel joy knowing that lives could be destroyed for your viewing pleasure.

    One thing is for sure, there is a huge difference between you and I other than our geographic location.
     

Share This Page