Lots more possible incompetence, if true. http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/14/health/texas-ebola-nurses-union-claims/index.html?hpt=hp_t1
no wonder there are 4-5 hospitals with ebola. specialization units (ie Nebraska hosp). these local hospitals are clueless.
Jaw-dropping, from the CNN article Major posted: At first, protective gear nurses were wearing while treating Duncan left their necks exposed. After expressing concerns that their necks were exposed even as they wore protective gear, the nurses were told to wrap their necks with medical tape, the union says. "They were told to use medical tape and had to use four to five pieces of medical tape wound around their neck. The nurses have expressed a lot of concern about how difficult it is to remove the tape from their neck," Burger said. At one point during Duncan's care, hazardous waste piled up. "There was no one to pick up hazardous waste as it piled to the ceiling," Burger said. "They did not have access to proper supplies."
This is bull. I work in the hospital and there is a standard when it comes to isolation precaution and what PPE (Personel Protective Equipment) to wear. There are 3 types of isolation airborne, droplet and contact. - Airborne you keep the pt in a negative pressure room and are fitted annually for an N95 respirator. Gloves and gown are also worn. -Droplet you just wear a typical procedure mask, gown and glove. -Contact all that is required is gown and glove. Those are the minimum. If staff so desires there are face shields and something to cover your head. As someone who works in the medical field I find it highly unlikely that Ebola's mode of transmission is merely through contact of another individual and believe the CDC is either incompetent or lying about the facts of Ebola being "only" contact precaution. If in fact the breach of protocol was their necks being exposed then what the heck was the nurse doing? Rubbing her neck on the patient? I've worked with hundreds of contact precaution patients for over 10 years with diseases such as MRSA, VRE, Hepatitis, MDRO, etc and have "breached protocol" by exposing my neck, heck even my glasses and shoes breached protocol every single time and have never acquired a communicable disease. This leads me to beg the question, why in the world were Hazmat crews in full gear when they were not even in contact with the patient? I mean I understand the need for the suits, but the mask and head gear? Even those attending to the Dr brought here from Africa were decked in Hazmat like gear. Don't get me wrong, I think that's great they were taking extra measures so why aren't those actually exposed to the highly contagious patient doing the same? Hospitals base their protocols on a standard set by CDC, so why were they not prudent enough to declare Ebola as airborne so that healthcare workers will be more prepared? That was a slap in the face to say the nurse breached protocol when she was relying on misinformation from the CDC. Don't be shocked if they eventually declare Ebola as airborne and make some excuse that the virus mutated.
Second Health Care Worker Tests Positive for Ebola A second health care worker at Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital who provided care for the first Ebola patient diagnosed in the United States has tested positive for the disease. The health care worker reported a fever Tuesday and was immediately isolated at the hospital. Health officials have interviewed the latest patient to quickly identify any contacts or potential exposures, and those people will be monitored. The type of monitoring depends on the nature of their interactions and the potential they were exposed to the virus. The worker was among those who took care of Thomas Eric Duncan after he was diagnosed with Ebola. The preliminary Ebola test was run late Tuesday at the state public health laboratory in Austin, and results were received at about midnight. Confirmatory testing on a separate specimen will be conducted by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta.
Not shocked there. If they're right about the 20 day incubation period I would suspect more healthcare workers to eventually be diagnosed as I fear that every single one of them "breached protocol". You then have to think about every single healthcare worker (Doctors, nurses, nurse aides, etc) that were exposed to patient zero and who they came in contact with at the hospital as well as outside (family and friends). I pray that this doesn't happen but this could very well be the Genesis of an epidemic.
because there is real concern ebola can evolve and go the airborne path. At least it was shown to be the case in a very small scale lab study in Canada a few year back (ebola seems to have transmitted from pig to money when they were physically separated). i found it's interesting that two nurses that worked directly with the original ebola infected patient has came down with ebola but none of the folks that were in contacts with him while he was very sick without any protection gear has *yet* come down with ebola... it seems to suggest it's not airborne and that it spread much easier at much later stage of the disease.
So from what ive been seeing it seems that the virus is just more transmitable in its late stages. Duncan had contact with people when he got sent back home yet none of them have become sick and we are about 5 days away from their 21 day incubation period. Now Duncan died october 8th and the nurse was diagnosed with it only a few days later? And now a second nurse also diagnosed within a week of his death. Im no expert but it just seems its more transmitable in its late stages than in its mild stage. Maybe im optomistic but since these nurses were diagnosed early and with mild symptoms it shouldnt spread much farther.
Guess what I saw this morning. http://video.foxnews.com/v/38401724...ys-ebola-primed-to-go-airborne/#sp=show-clips So this Dr. who has been studying Ebola for the past 10+ years claims that there's a zero probability that this virus doesn't go airborne and that there's no evidence it goes into the lung tissue. Yet IF there are cases in the thousands or millions than the evidence would be there. So basically, instead of taking extra measures now to prevent this transmission from host to host we'll just wait to confirm that it's an airborne disease after a city is infected.
This didn't happen at Emory (or Nebraska). I think this is a matter of preparedness and not respiratory transmission. If it ever became airborne, it would probably have mutated into a weaker form of the disease. :/
I think I read it possible for mutation after its been outstanding. Those other hospitals were what 3 months ago when people went there?
K, time to build an I Am Legend fence around Southern Oklahoma and be done with it. Nothing there is worth saving anyways, so mebbe nuke?
I am sure those nurses took a precautions. I don't think they are incompetent. I think Ebola is a lot more contagious than the CDC is saying.
http://www.wfaa.com/story/news/healt...llas/17249901/ DALLAS — The condition of Nina Pham — the Dallas nurse undergoing treatment for Ebola — was upgraded on Tuesday. Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital said Pham is now in good condition; she had been listed in stable condition on Monday. Pham released a statement on Tuesday. It's the first time she's been heard from since showing signs of the deadly virus. "I'm doing well and want to thank everyone for their kind wishes and prayers. I am blessed by the support of family and friends and am blessed to be cared for by the best team of doctors and nurses in the world here at Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital Dallas."
+1. Look at this CDC graphic. Aka it spreads just like HIV...so unless this nurse had an open wound, and then touched this pt. without gloves..or had sex with him..wtf?
