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Early Voting TX OCT 24 - NOV 4 : Don't wait until election day& risk your vote being disallowed

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by IBTL, Oct 23, 2022.

  1. London'sBurning

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    Those are called log files. They can be setup and implemented across your entire network infrastructure.

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    To be fair, log files can be tampered with, with network management tools used industry wide like SolarWinds.

     
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  2. geeimsobored

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    Whats the upside of online voting? It provides some theoretical access but is it a huge value add over mail in voting? I'm sorry for being skeptical but I lived in a state (Minnesota) that had 80% voter turnout in 2020. The big things that created access were the following:

    1. Competent Secretary of State (can't emphasize this one enough)
    2. Same Day Registration
    3. Sufficient E-Day polling locations
    4. 40 days of early voting
    5. No fault absentee/mail voting for the 40 day period.
    6. No Voter ID laws

    Sure theoretically you can create a safe and secure online voting system but the marginal increase in voter turnout because of it is going to be quite small (assuming a state implemented all of the other changes). Everyone in Texas understands that the voting system there is awful but until you're all grasping at expensive and unnecessary solutions. There are multiple states that just have well run elections and the turnout reflects that dynamic.
     
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  3. IBTL

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    KING HUMILIATION!!

    Overweight wrestlers?! LOL

    Oh man you really got me there! That was the post that really made everyone go -

    'you know king humiliation has a point I will vote for gop'

    you are not good at this! (I wish you were)
    Wow!
    ALL THE WAY UP!!


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  4. King1

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    You're not worth my time. I won't be wasting anymore effort. You can have the last word. Loser
     
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  5. mtbrays

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    Correction: ban guns and ammunition advertising so that people are not encouraged to exercise their second amendment rights if they are not self-motivated.
     
  6. London'sBurning

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    Well, yea. That'd be part of looking at your multiple plans available, and picking out the best one with more Pros than Cons. I imagine cost effectiveness and success upon implementation would go in the Pros category for using all available voting methods. The idea of online voting isn't to suggest it's the only way that voting should be implemented and discard all available options that also work. It's just to provide another secure option for people that would benefit from it. It's not supposed to be the cure all solution. Just another option to go along with mail in voting, or in person voting, or whatever proven traceable means of voting that already exists. And considering tech isn't a shrinking industry, but a growing one and the growing availability of smart phones even among your lower income individuals, why wouldn't it be a good idea to develop a safe and secure infrastructure for online voting considering tech is only being more widespread, not less?
     
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  7. Invisible Fan

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    People were irate Obamacare signup was down for weeks, can you imagine not getting your vote out on election night because of some slob pushing in a last minute fix on GitHub to prod? That's only the simplest case. We don't even have reliable black friday sales for all retail shops.

    It's like a poorly written satire from not getting a $300 TV doorbuster to Constitutional Crisis in 60 seconds or less.

    You think "foreign hacking" attempts are bad, wait until this prize turkey is out for bad actors to gobble up,

    https://people.csail.mit.edu/rivest/pubs/PSNR20.pdf

    Your pro of "cost effective" or "efficient when up" is not grounded in reality. Any credible online voting system becomes a honeypot with real cat and mouse type game theory for the rest of its implementation.

    Bruce Schneider is an excellent reference for any pro/con debate.
     
  8. Xopher

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    Can confirm @King1 has a wife. I've seen the cuck videos.
     
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  9. King1

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    You 100% wouldn't say that in person. I'm not ****ing with you either. Talk **** about Mr not my wife or children or I'll drag you out of your house like the b**** you are
     
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    Yeah you 100% wouldn't say the **** you say in person.
     
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    As someone who has both worked in government and currently works in the tech industry, I have zero faith in ever getting this right. Governments don't have the in house personnel to design a system like this so they outsource it to third parties. And those third parties lack the accountability to build a truly secure system (because the government has no way to ensure that a system is being built correctly). The perfect example of this is the implementation of electronic voting machines in the early 2000s. The companies that won the contracts to design the system did a crappy job and there was no expertise in government to ensure that it was built correctly. For a more recent examples, take a look at what a disaster the health care exchange websites were. Or look at the CIA informant websites that were hacked by foreign governments. We had CIA informants literally die because the government couldn't design secure websites for communication. Not to mention, even if you managed to secure online voting, you'd have a huge ongoing cost around continual security to ensure that it is up to snuff. And all of that cost would be borne for a system that likely wouldn't improve turnout if you implemented other voting reforms.

    Five states crossed 75% turnout in 2020. Just go learn from those states. The problem of low turnout has been solved by multiple states and it doesn't require something like online voting.
     
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    @King1 And no I don't want to meet you at the gym to roll around on the mat and then shower. So stop offering.
     
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    Come to the gym p***y. Real easy. You can record the minute you stay awake
     
  14. King1

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    Yep. b****made.
     
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  15. London'sBurning

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    That's a good link. The point of making voting easier and more available to even your least informed / most challenged voting population still stands though. Just not through online voting methods it seems. Increase in availability of voting areas county wide, locating voting stations near public transit routes for easier access for people that use public transpo, more days and longer hours to vote during elections would all be beneficial. Again, not suggesting online voting as the only solution. Any available options that aren't being implemented that would increase access and availability to more of the voting population while still being secure is what I'm really asking for more of.
     
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  16. Xopher

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    Oh shut up you whiny b****. Be a man. You talk **** to everyone, but if someone does it to you then you get your little feelings hurt.
     
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  17. Invisible Fan

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    Plus, electronic devices can get screwy for the littlest reasons... It worked on my machine?


    Anyhow, I feel franchised with mail in ballots that I registered online to get.

    If I didn't have a mailbox, I can see how that's a civil rights tragedy, but I personally have the mindset to get my vote out unless I'm so beyond poor not to care.
     
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  18. King1

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    p***y. Step up. Would love to stretch you
     
  19. Xopher

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    Sorry man. I'm not into that, but you have fun stretching with your butt plugs. You do you, buddy. Literally.
     
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  20. IBTL

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    He's got his little feelings hurt. Filthy repug scum. He's a joke @King1
     

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