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Eagles-Giants: This is ridiculous

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by The Cat, Dec 28, 2002.

  1. Manny Ramirez

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  2. The Cat

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    Oh, like when I was one of the only ones to pick the Patriots to win the Super Bowl last year (and actually put money on it)?

    Like when I picked Yao Ming as a stud before the draft lottery, when almost everyone doubted him?

    Like when I predicted the Saints to do better this season without Ricky Williams and the other stars, when almost everyone said otherwise?

    Like when I predicted the Texans would beat the Cowboys?

    It looks like I have an absolutely unreal ability to make a few other claims as well.
     
  3. The Cat

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    You know, it would make more sense to call a team the "Aints" if they hadn't beaten first place teams five times.
     
  4. Manny Ramirez

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    Now, Cat, you have made SO many predictions, that you are bound to get some right!:p ;)
     
  5. The Cat

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    Yeah, but for everyone wrong one I can show you several right ones... it's definitely not all one way or the other. :)

    And yes, I know I'm about to have a wrong prediction when Miami beats Ohio State next week...

    :(
     
  6. Puedlfor

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    Of course, they're also 0-fer last place teams, so it evens out.
     
  7. NYKRule

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    They lost to the Bengals and the Lions.


    Combined record: 3-27


    The Bengals loss was worse because it was an almost must-win. The second collapse just needs a cherry on top now.
     
  8. The Cat

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    If having a 10-6 season is a collapse, then I'll take a collapse every season as long as I live.

    Also, as a Texas fan, I've heard for years this line about how we didn't win big games. I heard about how Major was better than Simms because he won these "big games", even though he lost to teams like NC State and Stanford. (Believe me, I don't want to start this debate again, that example just came to mind) Now, here's a team that wins the big games, loses the little ones, and the exact opposite logic is being used? :confused:
     
  9. rocketfan83

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    Shockey is crazy out there. What happened to this dude. I don remember him going crazy after every catch at Miami. I thought he was a laid back and quiet guy I was so wrong. Hes going to be a star for many years obviously.
     
  10. drapg

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    Shockey already broke the team's TE reception record, eclipsing Mark Bavarro (sp?).
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    As a rookie! When you count the fact he missed a good chunk of the season with an injury (which hurt my fantasy team by the way), well its simply astounding!

    I don't want to open a new can of worms here, but I gotta wonder... if Shockey was of African American descent and still showed this "spunky" attitude (talking trash, getting in fights at practice, refusing to sing his school's anthem at lunch, etc.)... would he still be celebrated as a refreshing athlete or just labeled as another in a line of "difficult" men in the arena of sports.

    Just something to ponder on this NFL sunday...
     
  11. Manny Ramirez

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    Shockey has always been like that. Back in 2000, he wasn't even listed in the program when Miami played FSU, yet he was the one who scored the touchdown from Dorsey that put Miami up 27-24 (which was also the final score). I remember reading later that Dorsey kept saying that Shockey would come up to him after every play and say "I'm open. Throw me the ball!" The guy is a player. I just wished that he was on the Broncos and not the Giants.:(
     
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    If having a 10-6 season is a collapse, then I'll take a collapse every season as long as I live.

    What about a 9-7 season? Is THAT a collapse?;)
     
  13. The Cat

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    When you're playing with a QB at probably 60% for the last month, not really.
     
  14. Clutch

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    They started out 7-2 and finished the season 2-5, with 4 of those losses coming to the Browns, Vikings, Bengals and Panthers. They collapsed.
     
  15. Clutch

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    I don't know why I'm responding to this, but your "brag defense" was too easy to pick apart.

    Good pick... but just a week before didn't you pick an Eagles-Steelers Super Bowl? Steelers 31, Patriots 13 ... Eagles 27, Rams 24.

    This is supposed to be impressive? <B>Many</B> of us here felt that way about Yao -- after all he was considered by most to be the <b>#1 pick in the draft</b>. It was most of the national media and some BBS fans we were fighting.

    LOL. The Cowboys proved to be a terrible team, but still, this pick would be impressive at the time... except for the fact that you picked the Texans in their other 15 games. "Texans 17 Chargers 16" ring a bell? How about "Texans 20 Colts 17"? How about you just flat out saying it: "Hell, I'm going to pick [the Texans] if they're playing the Rams in St. Louis. I don't particularly care how we play, or who we play, I go into a game expecting a win. I don't pick my team to lose."

    Exactly. Try Lakers-Kings, Chris Simms, "Mets over Yankees in 6", Jason Collier, "Super Bowl: Giants over Ravens 13-6", "Texas 23, OU 10" and your classic "I <b>guarantee</b> the Rockets will make the playoffs" statement used about 1000 times in 2000-2001 to refute <i>any</i> criticism of the team.

    Legolas-like in accuracy you are not.

    But you know, it's not "score predictions" that are so much your problem. Every one will win some, lose some there. It's your ability to guarantee/make outrageous bold statements that gets you in trouble to begin with, then what makes you worse is your denial <i>over and over</i> when you lose. You immediately reach for two crutches (Refs and injuries) and can't admit you were wrong. I mean as I just replied to -- denying the Saints collapsed is good evidence of this.

    But we all know you well enough to know you will refuse acceptance of this -- I just posted here because I found what you wrote last week to be hysterical. I watched the Saints game (against the Bengals) and came on to read that thread, and your post looked like pure denial from a fan of a team that just blew playoff chances by losing to the <i>worst</i> professional football team in the land. I couldn't believe a Saints fan would act so confident as to make such a guarantee as you did. I mean <I>that</I> is ending up with your foot in your mouth. Blaming the officials (again) just helps solidify your already cemented reputation -- Personally I would embrace the rep if I were you because you really do have a gift.
     
  16. The Cat

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    Ah, ok, I see I need more examples (from this BBS).

    -- Diamondbacks over Yankees in 2001.

    -- Texas over Nebraska 2002 (almost nailed the exact score... 27-23, 27-24 final)

    -- Blazers over Jazz 2000

    -- Chris Simms (anyone with half a brain knows he had a fantastic season)

    -- Duncan would stay in SA 2000

    -- Calling the Bears 2002 collapse

    I would do more, but apparently the search function is down again.

    But you know, it's not "score predictions" that are so much your problem. Every one will win some, lose some there. It's your ability to guarantee/make outrageous bold statements that gets you in trouble to begin with, then what makes you worse is your denial over and over when you lose. You immediately reach for two crutches (Refs and injuries) and can't admit you were wrong. I mean as I just replied to -- denying the Saints collapsed is good evidence of this.

    Exactly what the **** do I have to do? When Texas lost to OU, and to Tech, I was right here to congratulate the fans of the other teams for outplaying us and playing a great game. When the Astros choked, I was right here. When the Rockets didn't make the playoffs (and if you want to blame me for picking the Rockets to make the playoffs when they went 45-37, go ahead), I was right here to apologize and take my lumps, not blame the officials. When the Spurs lost to the Lakers (twice), I was on the BBS, in chat, everywhere to apologize for being wrong and to give the Lakers their credit.

    If I had this "cemented" reputation, it would seem like I would hear this treatment from someone besides you. What it seems like to me is that you completely ignore all the times that I am here to admit I was wrong, and exclusively focus on the times I blame other factors, and try to make the part into the whole.
     
  17. MadMax

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    i'm white and i can't freaking stand jeremy shockey!!! refreshing?? not in the least...
     
  18. Clutch

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    How about tell the truth?

    http://bbs.clutchcity.net/php3/showthread.php?postid=284376#post284376

    <i>Ausmus hit a two run homer they called back. Truby was walked to load the bases; it was called a strike. Berkman was safe by a mile in the 9th on that double play.

    <b>Braves 1, Umps 1.</b></i>

    http://bbs.clutchcity.net/php3/showthread.php?postid=434064#post434064

    <i>You're right; I don't think LA is better than SA. The Spurs were the better team for the majority of the series, but <b>due to injuries</b>, poor coaching, terrible offensive execution, and bad luck, they lost several games they should've won. I don't think the Lakers are playing great basketball now; rather, they're gotten their share of bounces to make up for it. The Spurs just <b>picked a bad time to get injured</b> and lose offensive rhythm, and it showed.</i>

    http://bbs.clutchcity.net/php3/showthread.php?threadid=24062&perpage=30&pagenumber=2

    <i>Clutch:
    Actually you and others should know The Cat will say anything to defame a person who isn't a sunshine ass 100% of the time, especially about the players he plays favorites with. Lest we forget all those who took abuse for calling him on his guarantee we'd make the playoffs last season.

    The Cat:
    Last I checked, <b>I'm not responsible for Bill Kennedy's actions</b>.

    Clutch:
    How unbelievably thin can you get. We all agree it was a lame call, but it wasn't a guarantee the Rockets were going to win (they were down 7 and coming back), and the Rockets finished the season needing to have won 3 more games than they did to make your "guarantee". No dice.

    The Cat:
    I think the Rockets <b>would've won about 5 more games if not for that call</b>. The Rockets probably would've won, imho, because they had all the momentum. It was all in their favor. But that loss stopped a huge run from the Rockets, including a win over the Spurs, and to me it just killed all the momentum we had in that game and the season. IMHO, we would've beaten the Sonics and Clips for the last two games of that road trip had we kept the run going. <b>Bill Kennedy took away the chance</b>.</i>


    Couple more gems:

    <font face="arial" size="3"><b>Saints-Rams</b></font>
    <i>I don't care what the ABC announcers said, <b>I am so happy the Saints fans started throwing their bottles onto the field</b>. I'm so happy that Jim Haslett let those officials have it. I really feel for those Browns fans now. <b>The level of officiating tonight is absolutely pathetic.</b> The Rams don't know how to play real football, they just run plays and give sad looks to the refs, hoping to get bailed out. Newsflash: the Rams hold people defensively. Newsflash: Aaron Brooks has been hit late. Aaron Brooks took a helmet to helmet hit. The difference? The Saints play real football, and just move onto the next play. The Rams sit there and cry about it. And the officials let them get by with it game after game. The only shame is that one of those bottles didn't connect with an official. Is it classy? Probably not. But neither is paying $70 for a ticket and having to watch this bull****. Someone needs to do something about it, and watching the NFL office after the Cleveland fiasco it's fairly obvious they won't.

    I can't wait to hear those Rams fans after this game, if they hold on to win. (not a guarantee at this moment) The Rams still haven't found a way to beat the Saints; rather, <b>the Saints and officials combined have all but given them this game</b>.</i>

    <font face="arial" size="3"><b>Lakers-Kings Excuses</b></font>
    http://bbs.clutchcity.net/php3/showthread.php?postid=459199#post459199
    <i>Oh, and I did look at the scoreboard. It said the Lakers shot 27 free throws in the fourth quarter of an elimination game. I don't give a **** about anything else; <b>I saw the games and I know that the Kings are the best team in the NBA, no matter what anyone else says</b>. That's all I care about.</i>

    http://bbs.clutchcity.net/php3/showthread.php?threadid=35464
    <i>"I've also never really thought the NBA was <b>fixed</b> before these Finals. I had thought that LA got a few calls in the crucial moments because of the superstars and the big market, but teams have gotten that before. That's not an all out fix. But when you shoot 27 free throws in the fourth quarter of an elimination game, I'm not sure what else I can think."</i>


    I read your response this morning and just laughed hysterically. I thought to myself how can anyone have such a warped sense of reality? Does "The Cat" actually think I'm the only person to tell him about his reputation when the board is littered with posters telling him the same? Is "The Cat" a liar? I mean clearly some of the above statements could be viewed as outright lies about how you reacted. But I don't think you're intentionally lying. I think you really believe what you're saying. So is it a mental issue? Possible, but unlikely.

    So I think I figured it out: <b>YOU ARE ON CRACK</b>.

    Only someone on crack could wish officials were hit by bottles thrown by Saints fans because you feel the officials missed calls (surprise!). Only someone on crack could make such bold claims and ignore them when they're proven wrong, such as "Texas will dominate OU the way Miami dominated Florida. Book it." or "The Kings <i>will</i> win tomorrow [Game 7 against the Lakers]" or "There is no way in hell the Giants beat the Eagles this weekend. No chance."

    Hence, your BBS title is now "Member on Crack".
     
  19. NJRocket

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    How about a 10-6 season with no playoffs due to 3 losses in December (2 against crappy teams)?
     
  20. NJRocket

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    After that Clutch recap, I have 3 words for you...


    DOWN GOES FRAZIER
     

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