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Dwyane Wade ranked #18 by ESPN.....

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by Grapenutz, Oct 17, 2013.

  1. Grapenutz

    Grapenutz Rookie

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    .....which basically means they think Harden is the best two guard in the league. While I love Harden, I dont think hes better than either Kobe or Wade when those two are healthy
     
  2. LCAhmed

    LCAhmed Contributing Member

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    Well, neither of them are healthy....
     
  3. Salvy

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    And neither of them are getting younger...... Soooooooo
     
  4. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    We'll they aren't healthy or in their prime. I can spot a troll when I see one.
     
  5. Grapenutz

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    Wade is healthy. Much better defender, more efficient. Clutch too....especially in the postseason
     
  6. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    You must have spent the last year in jail becuase Wade sucked as much as Ginobili last postseason
     
  7. Grapenutz

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    Im not a troll. Harden is a good player. But he rankings must be a projection. Because Wade and Kobe BOTH had better seasons than Harden
     
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    Its important to keep in mind exactly how these rankings are created, because a lot of people criticizing them don't seem to quite understand how it works:

    [rquoter]This year, we asked our ESPN Forecast panel to predict the overall level of play for each player for the upcoming NBA season. This includes both the quality and the quantity of his expected contributions, combined in one overall rating.
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    We asked our ESPN Forecast panel to rate each player on a 0-to-10 scale, in terms of "the overall level of play for each player for the upcoming NBA season."
    [/rquoter]

    Kobe and Wade are ranked seemingly so low because many people (for good reason) expect them to be slowed down by health issues this year. They were asked not to rank the player based on how good they could be if they come back healthy, but what they expect the player's overall contribution to be this year.

    Its absolutely reasonable to think Harden has the greatest chance of contributing the most out of the three, since he's younger and more durable. If the question was something like "rate players on a scale of 0-to-10, assuming they are 100% healthy", then you'd get very different answers.
     
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    Wade wasn't that great last playoffs but he didn't suck.

    Ginobili did suck when it counted last season.

     
  10. Grapenutz

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    I think the rankings are complete BS tbh. Dwight was coming of major back surgery last yr....and they had him in the top 5. SMH
     
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    He did have to pace himself to be sure. But the Heat DO NOT win gm 7 without Dwade. and they damn sure dont win that huge gm 4 in san antonio when they were down 2-1 in the series
     
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    1.LBJ
    2.KD
    3.CP3
    safe to say?
     
  13. macho87

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    Grapenutz is an OKC fan just trolling here.
     
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    I believe that all of the numbers say otherwise.
     
  15. LCAhmed

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    Also Griffin is top 15?
     
  16. Grapenutz

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    Which numbers??????
     
  17. jtr

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    Yes. Beyond that it becomes murky. There seems to be little consistency as to how they treat injury and the aging curve.
     
  18. Grapenutz

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    Thats another joke too. So ridiculous. They're basically saying hes the best PF in the game
     
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    RAPM and WS. The only stats that really matter.
     
  20. TheRealAllpro

    TheRealAllpro Morey only fan

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    exactly what I wax thinking. I think harden us going to be 4. that's amazing.
     

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