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Dwyane Wade calls out Dirk

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by hotballa, Feb 9, 2007.

  1. A_3PO

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    This is well said. Wade's greatness cannot be denied and it is NOT because of foul calls. He's shown signs of greatness since the 2nd half of his rookie year. Still, everyone has to admit some of the calls he gets are crazy. But the guy has the good sense and guts to be aggressive and he takes a lot of punishment. I love Wade as a player and think he may be the best in the NBA. But I too hate the dumb foul calls when they happen.
     
  2. jlaw718

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    I can't tell if we hate on Nowitzki because he's a Maverick or because he's European?

    What's funny is -- if we're being honest with ourselves -- is that we would probably lambaste Dirk if the roles had been reversed and he had said that about D-Wade. We would have labeled him a "jerk" and a "punk" for not being classy about his championship, etc...

    Maybe he catches heat because he's the best player on a team that plays for a city that most of us despise. But I find it interesting that we rarely call out Jason Terry, Austin Croshere, Jerry Stackhouse, or Josh Howard.

    I don't like the Mavericks, period. But they do have a helluva team.
     
  3. AzCkR

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    dwayne wade speaks the truth.
     
  4. ShadyMcGrady

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    Man...F*CK THE MAVERICKS.

    I'd rather the Suns or Spurs (again) win the title instead of those fagbags.
     
  5. hatemavs4life

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    Disagree, D Wade knows what he wants to do and doesn't clam up at crunch time and Dirk is still wondering what to do at money time at least in the playoffs.

    Remember, Dallas beat SA in their series because, Dirk got an assist Oscar from Karl Malone, the undisputed King of Flop on flopping and getting a ridiculous number of free throws. Otherwise, Dallas isn't even in the finals.

    Now, who got more preferential treatment there?

    Winners (D Wade) get it done and losers (Nowitzki) make excuses. Bottom line. :D
     
  6. rimbaud

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    He only fell down in one of those videos. How does that prove he is a flopper like Dirk? All those show is that he got calls he shouldn't have.
     
  7. orbb

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    wade has some nerve....considering the refs bought into his fake stumbles. it was obvious as day the refs gave the championship to the heat. and i am no mavs fan (even tamc and some other nba players alluded to this without trying to get into trouble). last year's finals was a low point in nba history....when game officials decide to "help along" one team to the ring.

    just as shameless is that wade now flops on just about everything and whines when the officials dont buy it.
     
  8. steddinotayto

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    I, quite frankly, stopped caring about Wade's abilities to get to the FT line. If he wants to drive and penetrate to draw the foul and never evolve his game beyond 18 feet, that's his own personal loss. What I'm confused is how Dirk had the balls to say that the refs gave them the trophy when they were up 2-0. You're telling me you couldn't have won ONE single game in Miami and you couldn't win on your own floor in a crucial game 6? Actually, rewind this back even further to the game 7 against the Spurs. Didn't the officials give the Mavericks that 'and 1' call for Dirk?
     
  9. Turcan5

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    What benefit did the refs or the league get to have Miami win the title? Before the finals, would most casual fans put Wade in the same class as LeBron, Kobe, Dirk, etc? I don't think so. I'm not sure why people think Wade is getting preferential treatment over those guys, when they are clearly more marketable.
     
  10. francis 4 prez

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    i'm not saying the league told the refs to do anything, but you just answered your own question as to why they would want to. if he wasn't already, after the finals dwade was a huge star. the guy you can put in marquee games and draw a bigger tv audience than normal. the guy who is a face for the league. who is in commercials everywhere. if they've already got kobe and lebron, why not create wade and give yourself one more star in a league powered by stars?
     
  11. orbb

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    perhaps you should rewatch the games.At almost the same point in the last 4 games, the mavs would have a substantial lead. all of a sudden Wade starts getting ridiculous foul calls, until the heat overtake the mavs.

    i remember a tmac interview in the offseason where he treaded lightly around this issue. I can't remember the exact wording but it was something to the effect of the magical way the heat would suddenly start getting calls and win the game.

    i'm not hating on wade. i can live with superstars getting calls, but in this case, it is just crazy.
     
  12. tigermission1

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    How is that "flopping" then?

    Just admit it, you're a typical hater, nothing more.

    Wade is the most physical, mature and poised swingman in the league. He takes advantage of the existing rules, he knows with his speed/strength he can't be stopped and will be fouled every time he takes it in. Do you honestly think teams would rather give him a layup afraid of getting a foul called or actually foul him and make him earn it? The guy is a warrior, and he has the scars to prove it.

    Good to know that you side with Douchbag and the Mavs, though. Do you lose sleep over the fact that the Mavericks lost out on a ring?

    And I completely agree with Wade: Dirk disappears more often than not in the clutch. The fact that he has a great team is what covers up for that deficiency of his. There simply isn't another superstar in the league today who 'shrinks' in big games/entire playoff series like Dirk does.

    It's classless and cowardly to try and talk a good game after the fact...you lost out to the Heat, Dirkhead, if you're not going to give credit to a team that swept you for four straight after trailing 2-0 then the least you can do is shut the f*** up and hope you get another chance to prove yourself again. Show some humility, loser.
     
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  13. redefined

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    How can anyone say Dirk is not a leader?

    It makes no sense to me. Even if that's the case, what does that have to do with winning a championship. A team only needs one leader to keep things aligned. They obviously already have one in Stackhouse. It's even better to have a coach who is also a great leader. Dirk should give credit to the Heat for winning the championship. But maybe that right there is showing some leadership qualities. Who says you have to be classy to be a leader?

    You can say what you want, but seriously, how great of a leader is Tmac? Again, it might just be me and I know I'm not going to hear the truth in this forum, but I think he is completely ineffective as one.

    Anyways, Cuban came back and took a shot at Wade.

    http://www.blogmaverick.com/2007/02/09/dwayne-wade-a-leader/
     
  14. johnrox

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    dunno if people saw the game between mavs and heat a monhth ago, but the mavs got worked over and almost lost that game. dwade didn't get his"fous" and still almost singlehandedly beat the mavs. thay are spooked of dwade.

    the mavs can kiss my ... even if they were to win a ring(knock on wood), they might as well pawn it
     
  15. francis 4 prez

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    you should probably go look at dirk's career playoff numbers.

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/n/nowitdi01.html

    about 60% of the way down the page. tmac schooled the F out of him on '04 but he's been money in almost every playoffs he's been in. an off series against the heat doesn't discount the fact that he was spectacular in getting the mavs to that point.
     
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  16. A_3PO

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    Which is exactly why Dirk finally earned my respect last season and I stopped referring to him as Jirk. It's too bad for him he dropped off so much against the Heat. His clutchness against the Spurs and Suns was amazing.
     
  17. dfwrox

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    Yao 49%/8.3
     
  18. Bookit

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    First of all, Dirk didn't say the "refs gave them the trophy". Where did you get that from? Dirk said, right after the last game, that the Mavs gave away the series. Get your facts strait. And for Wade to come out now, 8 months later, and bash Dirk isn't right.

    Secondly, Duncan absolutely LIVED at the free throw line in game 7 and the entire series, for that matter. Not Dirk. The Spurs only stayed in the series because Duncan was at the free throw line every other minute. It was disgusting.
     
  19. Bookit

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    I watched game 7 the other day and Duncan was at the free throw line the entire game and Dirk didn't flop, ever. Get over it with the "King of Flop" stuff. It just isn't the truth. Dirk used to flop a few years ago but hardly ever does it anymore. Did Dirk flop last night against the Rockets? Nope. I know it must be frustrating for you that Dirk is good but you might watch a few Mavs games to get the real picture of Dirk's Game.
     
  20. dfwrox

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    You are complaining Duncan at free throw line??? :eek: :confused:

    You do know that he is shooting 60% at the line, right? Don't you think there MIGHT be a reason he went to the line so often? Hint, maybe there are someone other than the refs want to see him at the line???
     

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