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Dwyane Wade calls out Dirk

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by hotballa, Feb 9, 2007.

  1. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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  2. hotballa

    hotballa Contributing Member

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    snicker, you all can call me what you want, if the ROx faced the Heat in the Finals, I can guarantee there will be a gazillion threads about Wade's preferrential treatment. It's easier for him to drive because since he gets preferential treatment,m the defender is scared to death of even getting in the way.
     
  3. SamFisher

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    As previously mentioned, the raw # of FT attempts is influenced by many things (who shoots T's, in the penalty, pacing, etc) Here's a better measure.

    fouls drawn %

    Wade 19.3
    James 15.9
    Bryant 14.8
    McGrady 11.8


    Still don't see a correlation, that the guys who go to the rim more draw more fouls?
     
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  4. DVauthrin

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    Dwyane Wade is just smart and people dog him for it. I scream at T-Mac to stop settling for jumpers all the time because of the way games are called nowadays. I wish T-Mac had just a little bit of wade's aggressiveness at attacking the rim, but I understand with his back why he won't.

    He(wade) also hit a ton of mid range jumpers in the finals let's not forget that. But he knows if he goes in the paint and intiates contact and takes punishment he'll get free points at the free throw line.

    It's called being smartly aware of how games are being called. Dirk on the other hand flops when shooting a jumpshot or makes it incredibly obvious he is flopping period.
     
  5. JuanValdez

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    I thought Wade was supposed to be "classy."
     
  6. v3.0

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    Wade was trying to protect his championship, how was he suppose to respond when Douchebag says they lost the series instead of the Heat winning it (Douchebag may have a point but still...)

    Again I'm glad Wade responded to Douchebag's comments.
     
  7. IROC it

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    Dirkendouche cannot lead in his condition. He is a Whineheimer... or something.
     
  8. professorjay

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    It wasn't really a criticism of him. Just the fact that some guys reach it so early in their career, and you would bet someone like Wade would reach it many more times. The Heat could just as easily turn into another Timberwolves for years to come.

    Reminds me of reading an interview w/ someone who made it to the Superbowl. I can't remember who at the moment. But he made it in his first year and thought there would be many more to come. But after the years he realized how hard it is to reach it and you should never take it for granted and expect a second chance if you ever do make it.
     
  9. langal

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    Wade's not a flopper. He got too many calls in the Finals last year IMHO but that's not his fault. It's smart to keep drawing contact if you know you're getting the calls actually.

    And yes - if he was getting those calls against the Rox then opinions here would be different but that's why we're fans.
     
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    People like you are amazing. If you didn't see the difference in clutchness between Wade and Dirk in the Finals, you are just blind as a bat. When Wade didn't get the foul calls he hit the shot. Late in games he was hitting mid-range jumpshots like layups. Criticize all you want on the foul calls (and I agree some of them were crazy), but Wade hit DIFFICULT shots LATE IN GAMES when no foul was called. That's what superstars do on the biggest stage and that's why the Heat won and the Mavs didn't.

    If the Mavs had not come apart at the seams with 5 1/2 minutes left in game 3, they would be champions. But they didn't have the guts to close the sale. That is why they are bridesmaids without a ring. The Heat, with lesser talent, more guts and a superior leader, got the prize.
     
  11. DVauthrin

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    But he got some of those crazy calls because he was aggressive in going to the bucket and put the onus on the officials to make the call. And he also knows how the refs lean towards the offensive player when they initiate contact on a drive/shot.

    It's taking advantage of the rules, sure, but it's the sign of a poised intelligent player that he uses it to his advantage.
     
  12. JEREMYMEEGAN

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    Wade...Hes a phenomemal player...so is Dirk. I cant believe he said that about Dirk though :D .
    Tell you to truth, I think its funny, that hes bringing up stuff like that. Wade brought up his championship last year and then what he said about LeBron. LJ23 isnt scoring like he was in the past but is Wade really winning alot of games for his team? I think hes just mad becuz he couldnt beat the MAVERICKS with a game winning shot...now call that leading? TMAC IS LEADING
     
  13. topfive

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    There was a second or two of Keith Van Horn on the bench -- did he sign with anyone for this year, or has he retired? I can't imagine he has much left in the tank, considering he didn't have all that much in the tank when he was younger anyway.
     
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    This clip is funny because it shows Dirk missing a clutch freethrow meanwhile Wade flops at the end of the play.

    Point is, Wade may be a flopper but hes a champion because Dirk isn't as clutch.
     
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  17. AroundTheWorld

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    Thanks alexcapone. Once again, SamFisher gets pwned, as usual, on one of his ridiculous statements.
     
  18. francis 4 prez

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    why does everyone act like the argument is that wade is stupid for getting a lot of free throws? no one is saying he shouldn't do it (if someone will let you cheat you might as well), they're saying it's ridiculous he gets to do it.

    yes he drives a lot and is the most aggressive player, but being aggressive and getting calls no one else could get are not mutually exclusive. look at those inside shot %, ft/foul% things. wade shoots inside 4% more than lebron but gets 4 more ft's and has a 4% higher foul rate. and lebron is a pretty big star, but even he can't compete with wade. kobe seems a little closer but wade still shouldn't have that advantage.

    i mean does everyone really think jordan got treated exactly like every other star and he just happened to be aggressive? why can't the same acceptance that jordan got calls no one else could not apply to wade?

    i think the calls that get people the most mad are when wade just goes flying in and falls down b/c he's so reckless and he gets a call when no one even touched him or barely did. no one else really drives the same way where they basically always fall down and i don't think wade does it consciously. it's just his style, but it ends up rewarding him for being out of control in a way others aren't, even when driving.

    i should state i actually like wade, think he's a badass, is able to take over games better than anybody right now, is super clutch, and is the most aggressive player in the league, but that doesn't mean he doesn't get ridiculous calls. there's a great series on youtube called "phantom foul" (edit: i see someone posted it), and it has 5 calls for wade just from the finals last year that were beyond ridiculous. not being touched on a jump shot, hitting dirk in the chest with his hand out on the perimeter and getting the call on dirk. and it seems like there's one of those a game when you watch him.




    as for dirk, he was huge all playoffs until the finals, when he did get shut down. but that free throw he missed in that clip was probably the first pressure free throw he had missed out of 20. everyone misses one eventually. and if the ridiculous foul on wade at the end of game 5 after he missed the potential game-winning hadn't been called, dirk would have had the game winning shot from a few seconds before.
     
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  19. KingCheetah

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    Preferential treatment does not equal flopping.
     
  20. jlwee

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    I dont hate Wade but i really dont like the "special superstar" he is receiving.. is almost ridiculous!
    I will like see what some posters here have to say if the rockets met the heat in this year Finals.
    What you gonna say when Battier fouled out guarding Wade in 15minutes. What happen when t-mac got hacked while driving and got no-call whereas Wade blew up Yao and T-mac for a layup without anyone touching and yet the referee blow the whistle???
     

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