Dwight update: Not close to a trade with Rockets

Ingram is a hack and might have just made it up. That said it's totally believable. Morey is all in dudes, you better believe it.

 

Heck, if you remove T-Jones that's still a very lucrative trade offer.

Hell, I think a guaranteed lottery pick plus taking on some bad contracts, really trumps all other offers.

 

One of our two top prospects are gonna be gone...I hope not 2...

 

If what Ingram says is true and we do give up the rest of the rookies and go win now mode, a lot of people are going to be pissed. Guess we were all fooled by thinking even for a second Leslie might have bought the idea of rebuilding and the organisation really liking the young guys..

 

The fact that Ingram reported this means it's total bullsh#t. I mean, he's probably the most unreliabe NBA 'insider" in existance. This report makes me more certain than ever that Morey will keep more rookies than he lets go of.

Three universal truths in life:
Death
Taxes
Bill Ingram will be wrong

 

Just because he makes **** up and sniffs jocks and has no credibility, you think he's a hack?

Uh, yeah, me too.

 

Ingram isn't that bad. He just sometimes gets caught up in the mainstream crap that gets spewed. If I remember correctly he predicted the Kevin Martin trade to Houston.

 

Remember when Bill Ingram/HW said the Rockets and Dragic had a pre-arranged deal?

Yeah, me too.

 

If we manage to retain a lot of assets from a Dwight trade, I still don't see us trading for another star this upcoming season.

I mean you have to consider that there's a good chance we won't see Dwight until mid-to-late in the season. Coming back from back surgery takes time. Specially considering how much he relies on his athleticism.

I think If the rockets make any other moves for another star quality player (Rudy Gay, Iggy), its only once they know they have Dwight Howard locked up.

I think right now, Morey is just making his move, not for Dwight's impact this upcoming season, but for his bird rights. Truth be told, that's where the true value lies.

 

Dwight said his back will be ready for training camp. Maybe he was lying but I doubt it.

 

Thing to keep in mind is adding another big name player helps convince Dwight to stay.

 

How ironic would it be if we get Rudy Gay after so many years. I rather have Iggy but would only gave up Patterson and one of the bad contracts coming in. Maybe a second round pick but no way we give up one of our good rookies. This is the first year Morey has really struck gold in the first round, three times to be exact, and it would suck to see them leave.

 

What are some of you even fighting for at this point?? If the Rockets get Howard, and then get ANOTHER superstar on top of that, you're saying people would be pissed because we're trying to WIN A CHAMPIONSHIP?? I'm confused as to what the objective of even HAVING an NBA team is at this point.....

You don't know ANYTHING about the future of Lamb, White, and Jones. However, we KNOW that Dwight Howard + help is a contender.

 

Ingram's take is not news. If we get DH, I would expect Morey to shift gears quickly and do whatever it takes to go into win now mode. You don't bring in a player like DH to be a part of a rebuilding process. Whatever youth we preserve in the initial Howard deal will probably be on the block to acquire talent that is more ready to make an immediate contribution.

Right before the draft the prospect of trading away our picks to get Howard was really exciting. It's funny how quickly perceptions can change when the picks start to show promise.

A lot of people are on the fence here. Opportunities to land a player like DH do not come along often, and the Rockets look to be the only ones with a serious shot at the moment. OTOH, if in the short term you can't put together a team that has a realistic shot against OKC and Miami (even with Howard), the prospect of watching a young team grow into a great team is an enticing alternative — especially considering the potential drama we would avoid at this time next year. Most of us don't mind seeing our team lose for a while if it is making steady progress toward something special.

 

Do you think Dwight would rather be in Orlando or Houston?

 

You lost me right there...

 

Yes, but if they get the package we are offering and then trade that available cap space for tradeable assets later, they can has their cake and eatz it, too. This would be step 1 of a multi-year plan to be relevant and avoid the poor percentages of the tank lottery.

Think 3 steps ahead...

 

But i think they're trying to get INTO the draft lottery, not out of it at this point in time. Overpriced veterans are not going to help them longterm and will only hurt their draft position. The overpriced veterans will also hamper the development of the youth by eating up their playing time. Thinking 3 steps ahead would be them sucking, getting high draft picks, developing them into stars, having cap space to resign those stars AND go after higher priced veterans. That's thinking 3 steps ahead. No way they're competitive next year so the whole "they're going to trade for high priced veterans next year and it'll give other teams cap room which will hurt our chances to resign Dwight next summer" theory is simply flawed.

 

Spin it however you like. I dont care. Not worried about signature worthy material either. Yes, I'm the guy that said the Lakers or the Spurs would come out of the West. Look it up.

However, while most of this board was in denial months ago that Morey was going to try to trade for Dwight, I told you he was going after Dwight. Them when it became obvious that Dwight was going to be traded, I told you he was most likely going to be traded here while most of you, once again, said no way. Then when all the Dwight to Brooklyn nonsense popped up, I told you that Brooklyn's opportunity to trade for Dwight went down the toilet when the Nets didn't win a top 3 lottery slot. And when the Laker junk popped up, I told you Morey was not going to facilitate Howard to the Lakers when he could get him here. Some of you still don't believe that. You're still stuck in Bynum's world, thinking Morey is going to trade for Bynum.

Believe what you want. As for me, I'm telling you, the odds of Morey trading Parsons at this point for Dwight are basically the same as Brooklyn trading for Dwight now, no chance.

 

Even though the article is from poopsworld, but it would ofcourse make sense for Morey to go after another player. I think that if we can somehow save Lamb in Howard deal and then trade him in a deal for someone like Iggy or Gay, we would have the Battier/Gay dabate all over again in a couple of years. We would be in win now position, just like we were with Yao/Tmac. Thats why we traded a young prospect for a veteran in Battier that could help us right away. It made sense at that time, and it would make sense for us to get another star player that could help us win now.

But ofcourse, some people would rather have our team suck and hope that we could somehow become OKC in a few years, rather than have a couple of All-star type guys that could make us contenders.