Dwight update: Not close to a trade with Rockets

Haha

 

Yeah, it's hard to believe that we wouldn't have already heard about a Jones signing. I don't have a lot of faith in ESPN anyway. Good point about Lin, unless there is some legal mumbo-jumbo still to be taken care of. We're grasping at straws, aren't we.

 

K Mart would be beast next to Lin, and, Howard might as well keep 12 mill in expiring if they want young guns and picks plus salary relief

 

Terrence Jones hasn't been signed.

 

Well i know its not realistic unless Morey does have leverage and forces orlando out of depseration, but I would love to still have parsons dmo and lamb by the end of it. Jones is someone i would also like to keep but not as much ad the first three.

I think White is overrated and will have trouble in the league for a while (just my opinion)

I would do away with Martin, Patterson, Morris, White, toronto pick, another first a couple seconds and maybe jones. If that goes through for dwight and 2 bad contracts of either duhon jrich or hedo, I would be really happy

 

Do you know for sure? Maybe someone should tweet him and ask him if he has been signed yet. :grin:

 

Terrence Jones has not been signed. ESPN probably got him confused with Terrence Ross or something. It was never reported anywhere.

 

I am sorry, but you are choosing the wrong to keep if you had to choose between Lamb and Donuts. Young, very skilled, fast 7-footer = rare these days.

IMO, we keep both and anybody else is tradeable for a rental.

 

You are right about the rareness and might be right overall in the end, but you can not dispute that Lamb seems to have the swag and that IT factor about him. To me I could see Lamb growing into the mold of a Kobe type he seems to possess that killer instinct and clutchness.

 

2 bigs things are going to happen come new season

Dwight is going to look very awkward in Orlando or not play at all.
Our package assets are going to shine or bust.

 

Orlando spent all their money trying to add players around Howard. That's why they have to dump salary when they trade him.

 

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/20.../17/josh-smith-hawks-dwight-howard/index.html

josh smith is hoping that howard goes to the hawks

 

Ok. I have a question regarding the 'Dwight Situation', and if it turns out to be a dumb question, then my bad.

As I understand it, as of now, Dwight's options, if and when he is traded, is to either A) sign an extension or B) re-up with his current team (whoever that is, or C) become s true free agent and hit the open market, and find a spot with whoever can afford him and wherever among those teams he wants to go.

I think that is correct, if not, then I am totally lost.

I think everyone is in agreement that option A) is not going to happen; Dwight is extremely unlikely to sign an EXTENSION anywhere at all.

So this leaves options B) and C).

Now again as I understand it, the difference between B) and C) is the current team's ability to offer one more year at the max, which in real money probably means somewhere in the neighborhood of 25 million dollars or so.

That much I get.

And the reason most of us have felt confident that Dwight would re-sign here if he gets traded here is because we would be able to offer that extra 25 million in that extra year when he re-ups. In other words, it's the 'we can offer more than anyone else, nobody would turn their back on 25 million dollars', etc etc argument.

And I get that as well.

But the question I have is, is that really true?

What I mean is this: I assume the deal any OTHER team could offer would be 4 years max, but we could offer 5 years max, hence the extra $$. (if the years are wrong, the point of the question is still the same though)

But let's assume that Dwight does NOT re-up with us, and elects to sign the max he can get anywhere else, so let's say, 4 years max instead of 5, and 25 million less on his contract.

It seems to me that in either scenario, Dwight should still be playing, and playing effectively, 5 years from now, whether playing on the 5th year of a 5-year contract, or in YEAR ONE of a new contract or contract extension from the 4-year contract signed in someplace other than Houston.

*Is the 5th year, assumed 25-million dollar amount for year five in Houston MORE than the first year of his NEXT contract after the 'other-team's' 4-year contract is done?*

I hope that is making sense. To condense it down, what exactly is the difference in real money between the extra-year contract he could sign here, versus the one-year-less contract, and the one we would assume would follow immediately after that?

Is there some CBA mechanism in place that definitively assures us that, no matter what, Dwight signing for 5 years for the max with US will guarantee him more $$ than just signing for four years elsewhere and then just signing another contract after that?

I know we would get to add another year - I am just suddenly concerned that we are all assuming that the extra year really does in fact mean more money, but a longer contract does not in and of itself mean MORE money, it just means LONGER money. But if he continues to play, say, for ten more years, then the difference between a 4 year and a 5 year contract could become meaningless.

Hopefully there is some legitimate answer for this, because if there is not, then that suddenly throws a whole lot of doubt on the idea of giving up a lot of assets for DH.

Personally, I hope that the extra actually means what we have all assumed it means, more real dollars no matter what. But I am not sure, and I have never seen the question addressed.

Anyone have any info on this issue?

 

Kmart pretty much has to go for salary purposes iirc

 

Alright here's what I'll give up to either gamble on D12 resigning or for Bynum - either or...

I'll take Big Baby and JRich's contracts.

Here's my endgame...
Lin/Douglas/Machado
JRich/Lamb
Parsons/MMo/Royce
Big baby/DMo/Royce
D12 or Bynum/Asik/DMo

so they can have KMart, T Jones, and any of the following: PPat, Livingston, Forbes, Greg Smith, Simpson, Brockman, Harrelson, Fortson.... and any other unmentioned 6'9 pf on the team....

as for picks.... They can have the toronto pick - and nothing else... OR they can have 'the rest' (all the other picks DM has accumulated - excluding the Rockets own picks.... Dallas 1st, NY 2nds, Charlotte 2nd, Clippers 2nd and some cash....)

that's my offer... or let him expire...lol

 

Tony Mejia @TonyMejiaNBA
"@sbeezyTX: Houston would be willing to help LA when they could cut them out completely?" May want full season to woo Bynum over DH rental.

Sorry Mejia, Rockets are going for gold here, not silver or bronze.

 

Have any rookies on any team signed for that matter?

Donuts could cause he he was drafted last year.

As of now, teams just own rookies rights....correct?

 

I think the simple answer to your question, if I understood correctly, is that whatever he signs in THIS upcoming contract is GUARANTEED. Who knows what he can do 5 years from now. He could have a career ending injury. He could decline rapidly.

Players always want longer contract if it is max. Teams have to weigh between the risk of giving too long a contract (injuries, etc.) and the risk of giving too short a contract (leaving the team when the player still plays at a high level).

 

For the love of God!

The Rockets will NOT give up all that for Dwight.

All the speculators need to cut it out.

Peep the trade that sent Melo to NY.

And that was a trade for a superstar player that actually WANTED to go to that destination.

Doesn't appear like much.

Meanwhile we giving up, Jones, Lamb, (they waitin on DMo), 1st rounders, 2nd rounders and Morey's kidney for a rental???

Bwahahahahaha.

Some of y'all are funny.

 

Who is Mejia anyway? Gonna have to google him