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Dwight or Big Al?

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by downbytheriver, Apr 21, 2014.

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  1. downbytheriver

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    Dwight puts up big numbers but isn't a go to option. Great rebounder and ok defender. Al jefferson is a huge post up threat and can take over games similar to Aldridge last night.

    Who wld you rather have? Imho a guy like Jefferson is more effective come playoff time... And Dwight isn't Dwight from 3 years ago.
     
  2. Pull_Up_3

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    what Dwight lacks offenssively compared to big al

    big al lacks defensively compared to dwight

    /thread
     
  3. J Sizzle

    J Sizzle Member

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    "okay defender"? Not sure if serious...
     
  4. downbytheriver

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    Not really, do you watch Charlotte? Although rare nowadays, big guys with a strong offensive game are an x factor. Unless you can defend like prime deke, that anchor role isn't as effective as of uses to be
     
  5. wfeebs

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    This thread needs to end. OK defender for Howard. No mention of Big Al's horrendous defending?
     
  6. Scolandry

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    This is ridiculous. I don't like Howard at all but no way in hell I would want Big Al over Dwight. We would give up 150 points a game if Big Al and Harden were on the same team.
     
  7. tested911

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    Wait and hold the phone!!

    Are you saying Dwight has a chance at signing with the Rockets???!!!

    No way that is pipe dream :p
     
  8. chff1

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    When you combine those two, you get the Dream. But DH >>>> Big al, especially for our team. We have 122 problem last night and offense isn't one.
     
  9. dobro1229

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    Its ridiculous how knee jerk the basketball world is.

    Lets put things in context with these facts in mind-

    -He's not a good defender
    -He has every play run for him offensively
    -He's had major injuries throughout his career
    -He was on really talented teams that went nowhere


    I dont want to take anything away from the great year that Big Al had, but people need to smack themselves in the face if they voted for Big Al here, or if any NBA media idiot votes for Big Al 1st or 2nd team over Dwight.
     
  10. Nook

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    Stop making threads.
     
  11. wekko368

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    Al Jefferson is arguably the best post player in the league, and he shoots 50% from the field. What's wrong with him being the focal point on offense?

    You're exaggerating his injury history.

    Can you name some of the players from these really talented teams?
     
  12. Edward77547

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    Don't need more offense on this team we need more defense. Subtracting Dwight and adding big Al wouldn't make our team better.
     
  13. clos4life

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    Dwight is a monster defensively. Jefferson is horrendous defensively. It evens out.
     
  14. Sanity2disChaos

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    This is getting JUICY :) ..lol
     
  15. J Sizzle

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    Yeah except Dwight isn't god awful at offense. He's not Jefferson, but Dwight's offense is wayyyy better than Jefferson's defense.
     
  16. bobloblaw

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    Horrible thread. Please make an argument from statistics that Jefferson is better than Howard or that Dwight has dropped off over the past 3 years.

    Howard (10-11 & 13-14) v. Jefferson Advanced
    <PRE>
    Rk Player Season Age G MP PER TS% eFG% FTr 3PAr ORB% DRB% TRB% AST% STL% BLK% TOV% USG% ORtg DRtg OWS DWS WS WS/48
    1 Dwight Howard 2010-11 25 78 2935 26.1 .616 .593 .877 .007 12.6 30.6 21.8 6.8 1.9 4.9 16.2 27.2 113 94 6.7 7.7 14.4 .235
    2 Dwight Howard 2013-14 28 71 2396 21.3 .600 .593 .798 .009 11.4 27.9 20.1 9.3 1.2 4.0 17.5 24.0 109 101 4.0 4.1 8.0 .161
    3 Al Jefferson 2013-14 29 73 2557 22.6 .532 .510 .201 .011 6.9 28.2 17.5 12.8 1.4 2.4 7.6 29.3 105 100 3.1 4.7 7.8 .146
    </PRE>
    Howard (10-11 & 13-14) v. Jefferson Totals
    <PRE>
    Rk Player Season Age G GS MP FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% 2P 2PA 2P% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS
    1 Dwight Howard 2010-11 25 78 78 2935 619 1044 .593 0 7 .000 619 1037 .597 546 916 .596 309 789 1098 107 107 186 279 258 1784
    2 Dwight Howard 2013-14 28 71 71 2396 7.1 12.0 .591 0.0 0.1 .286 7.1 11.9 .594 5.2 9.6 .547 3.5 9.5 13.0 2.0 0.9 1.9 3.4 3.6 19.5
    3 Al Jefferson 2013-14 29 73 73 2557 9.9 19.4 .509 0.0 0.2 .200 9.8 19.2 .512 2.7 3.9 .690 2.2 9.0 11.2 2.2 0.9 1.1 1.7 2.5 22.4</PRE>
     
  17. WFU Guy

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    Hate to bring reality to these conversations but did any of you watch Big Al this season? He's far from a defensive Adonis, but he's far more competent than any of you are suggesting.
     
  18. bobloblaw

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    Whoops--screwed up the 2nd table. It should also read "Per 36 Totals":

    <PRE>
    Rk Player Season Age G GS MP FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% 2P 2PA 2P% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS
    1 Dwight Howard 2010-11 25 78 78 2935 7.6 12.8 .593 0.0 0.1 .000 7.6 12.7 .597 6.7 11.2 .596 3.8 9.7 13.5 1.3 1.3 2.3 3.4 3.2 21.9
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  19. Ziggy

    Ziggy QUEEN ANON

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    Man, this team's defense would be terrible if you replaced Howard with Jefferson, unless Asik could start alongside him. Howard's impact on defense is still out of this world. It's hard to notice when you have an Asik backing him up since there's little dropoff. But Asik is also a game changer. Howard makes an impact every night on defense. If Jefferson gets off to a slow start or cant find a rhythm on offense, you're in trouble.
     
  20. wekko368

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    Al Jefferson is criminally underrated on clutchfans. Before we acquired Dwight, it was laughable how many people wanted Josh Smith over Al Jefferson.
     

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