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Dwight Howard prefers New Jersey

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by J.R., Dec 8, 2011.

  1. Ricksmith

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    For some reason I can see someone like Kahn trading for him, just because.
     
  2. J.R.

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    Marc Spears of Yahoo Sports on Y! Sports Radio:

    Looking at your article titled "Howard doesn't expect trade in near future or at all", talk about that. Are they...If they dont get rid of him, will they look like the Cavs without LeBron James, where they don't get anything for him? Is it down to big market teams only? Is this who Dwight wants to play for, only big markets?

    I think, I would not be surprised, and if this does happen, please call me back and say you called it, I would not be surprised if they didnt trade Dwight, that he opts into his deal and could be going through the same thing again with Orlando next year. Keep in mind, he wants a 5 year extension. He signs an extension now, and this is the reason, part of the reason Deron Williams hasnt signed anything or Chris Paul opted into his last year of his deal with the Clippers is because you can get a 5 year extension at the end of that deal with your parent club or you can do it now and get 3 years. So it makes financial sense to wait. Dwight, him not getting the last year of that deal from his parent club, if he opts out and becomes a FA, hes basically giving up 28 million dollars because he can only sign a 4 year deal, going to a team as an UFA after this year. Its a lot of gamesmanship and a lot of money involved. In the end, very possible Dwight could be going through the whole thing again and hopefully get traded and hoping for the right team. So maybe if it doesnt happen now, it could happen a year from now. Also, I think his FA opportunities will be better and maybe even the trade possibilties will be better next year.

    You mentioned Deron Williams. What is the state of the Nets right now as far as being able to put together what Deron WIlliams would want to keep him a Brooklyn Net.

    They gotta be nervous because, what the Utah Jazz did was say 'We dont want this problem anymore, we dont want to be a media circus everyday, we dont want to be stressed out about this so lets give New Jersey our problem'. Deron never once made them feel confident that he was going to re-sign in Utah so what they did is trade him and got some great great picks and players out of it. If you look at the Jazz now, its interesting that they are even competitive as young as they are but are feeling good about their future because what they picked up from the Nets. Now its the Nets problem. They dont know if Deron is staying or going and he's just basically playing it out. There is a lot speculation the Dallas Mavericks will take him back to his hometown, which is certainly possible, which is why Dallas didnt re-sign Tyson Chandler because they wanted to save up some money for next summer and I think they'll really go after Deron Williams. So yeah, if Im the Nets, I'm really really nervous. Maybe they need to do something and trade Deron before the deadline too if they arent confident he'll be there long term.
     
  3. J.R.

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    http://www.cbssports.com/nba/story/...t-to-keep-howard-more-trade-scenarios-blossom

     
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    [rquoter]According to Stephen A. Smith from ESPN Radio(Approximately 1:50 into the radio spot: )

    "As I told you a little bit earlier in the hour, I have some news to report about your New York Knicks. The Orlando Magic, I will preface my statement by telling you that they have categorically denied this, but my sources tell me that they have inquired about Tyson Chandler and Amar'e Stoudemire going to Orlando for Dwight Howard. Let me confess to you that I'm torn. From a basketball standpoint, it would seem you do that trade in a heartbeat. You don't teach seven-feet and you don't teach the dominate and the skills that Dwight Howard has. But I like Tyson Chandler. I like the fact that he rebounds and defends."[/rquoter]
     
  5. jopatmc

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    If Orlando is serious about Chandler/Amare, then they should be serious about a deck clearing trade including Dally/Scola/Martin, etc. I don't think they are serious. I think they are floating this out to get the Lakers to the table with Bynum/Pau.
     
  6. Ricksmith

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    Amar'e and Tyson would be either a great haul for Dwight, or their injury history could come back and make this a huge fail for Dwight.
     
  7. plutoblue11

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    Not really... why would they be serious about Houston in that deal, they'd might bite at Dally/Lowry/Martin?
     
  8. Pete the Cheat

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    I still think it would take more. Orlando is going to want a big name back in any deal involving Dwight, and as good as Lowry has been he doesn't fit that bill.
     
  9. jopatmc

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    Well, let's get right down to it. They should bite at Lowry/Martin/Dally/Scola. Shouldn't they?
     
  10. chrispbrown

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    Just out of curiosity, is there a minimum salary that Dwight/D Will can take? I know it won't happen but in theory could they take say a 2 million/yr contract? Or is there some sort of restriction as far as how low they can go?
     
  11. DaDakota

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    I just want whatever done, so the Rockets can get their house in order as to what plan to pursue.

    DD
     
  12. jopatmc

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    Fast Forward 7 weeks bro.
     
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    The salary match is fairly close and Orlando could toss in Chris Duhon to seal the deal.

    Great move for the Knicks if it happens. Maybe the Magic could flip Chandler to another team.
     
  14. intergalactic

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    Chandler/Amare for Dwight would be pretty terrible for Orlando. Amare is breaking down this season already. Chandler, while good, is better suited for a current contender, since he has a long injury history too. A reasonable projection is that each would have 1-2 good seasons, a mediocre season, and then 1-2 bad seasons. Meanwhile Dwight will be THE dominant post player in the league for the next 5 years minimum.
     
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    I see Stephen A. Smith and completely disregard legitimacy.

    If its in serious talks than Broussard will be on top of it. Smith is just looking for attention and clinging on to relevence in the sports world.


    However, this trade would make sense for Orlando if they want to compete now and think Amare can do it on his own. I think you are seriously looking at a two year window to win it all with Amare as your lone star.

    However, I highly doubt Orlando thinks that Amare can win you a title on his own with other role players. New Jersey still has the better offer with high quality draft picks and Brooks Lopez. The Lakers have the 2nd best offer centered around Bynum, picks, and whatever young talent/picks a third team(ehhem..Rockets) can give them for Gasol.

    Third best offer would be Amare/Chandler for Howard, and Fourth would be just Bynum for Howard. Fifth best offer would be whatever Dallas can piece together. If the best Dallas can offer is Roddy B, then good luck Dallas.
     
  16. jopatmc

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    Interesting thoughts.

    1. No team will compete for a championsip with Amare as it's lone star.

    2. NJ is going to have their pick available plus possibly our pick, if we make the playoffs. Now, if NJ trades for Dwight and pairs him with Deron this season at the deadline, they are at worst going to probably finish around 10-14 in the lottery and may even make the playoffs. So, two picks they trade for Dwight could wind up essentially mediocre salary slotters.

    3. The Lakers aren't offering Bynum and Pau.....yet. They're going to wait to the last minute and if they do at all. And this would be the best offer Orlando can get, way above Amare/Chandler, unless the Clips come straight with Blake/Deandre.



    It appears that Orlando is trying to start a bidding war now. My guess is Dwight is traded on March 15 unless he agrees to a long term extension and signs it by or before then. I don't expect the Nets are going to be at the final table to get Dwight.

    The best deal would be Blake/Deandre if that materializes.
    The next best deal would be Bynum/Gasol if that materializes.
    The next best deal would be Lowry/Martin/Dally/Scola/whatever else to help Orlando clear the deck and rebuild with youth while remaining competitive. And that deal with the Rox may actually trump Bynum Gasol, I don't know.

    However, that's 3 teams in the West that will give Orlando a better return on Dwight than NJ or NY can. And Orlando is going to prefer to trade him to the West. They don't want to face him and DWill in the East and have to build a team to go through him, Rose, and James/Wade. They'd prefer to trade him to the West for max value. And in the West, they'd prefer to send him to anyplace but the Lakers.

    So, with that in mind, I think it comes down to the Clippers and the Rox....if Morey wants to throw all the cards on the table.
     
  17. chrispbrown

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    I think the trade would have to be Chandler/Amare for Dwight and Turk.

    That's a pretty bad cap situation for Orlando. I really wouldn't want to be paying Amare $23 million in 2014-15, not to mention Chandler $14 mill. They would be giving Dwight to eastern competition, if NYK decides to amnesty Turk that gives them the possibility to make a run at Deron.

    I think there is really no chance for this to happen. Chandler/Amare are the crippled version of Pau/ Bynum...
     
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    Transcript corrected.
     

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