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Dwight Howard on Inside the NBA

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Amel, May 10, 2016.

  1. YOLO

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    ok I can't play defense because im tired is not quitting.

    like i said directly or indirectly it falls into the same exact result.
     
  2. SF3isBack!!

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    Yeah thanks for proving my point. Another "But.. But.. Harden?" post. We are talking about Dwight. The funny thing is you think you are actually saying something. You're not even trying to prove Dwight isn't a quitter (Because you know that's a losing argument) you're just reinforcing the fact you think Harden is one too. Remind me is that the subject we're on? No we're talking about Dwight.
     
  3. YOLO

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    might want to look at yourself in the mirror first there
     
  4. SF3isBack!!

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    Weak, no argument at all. Why don't you go ahead and tell me how Harden is a quitter "too" in a thread about Dwight one more time. Let's see how many people can only defend Dwight by attacking Harden we have on the board, lol. Dwight is a quitter he admitted it stop deflecting.
     
  5. YOLO

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    you're looking for an "argument" on who's a bigger quitter. just sit back and think a bit about that for a moment.
     
  6. SF3isBack!!

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    No you are changing the definition of things in order to suite your argument and it's weak. Again saying that you are "Not able to, due to physical reasons" and saying "I Quit because Im mad" are two different things. You are trying your best to ignore context in order to make things fit. You are also trying to change my argument by saying that I think Harden is the "lesser" quitter, when I've been saying Harden isn't a quitter at all. It's not working.
     
  7. YOLO

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    oh shut up with the manipulation stuff. its just tiresome and stupid. It doesn't matter whether you think Harden is a quitter or not, when in reality he admitted he quits on defense regardless of the way he said it.

    You're trying to make assumptions of something when you're sitting there doing it yourself. You're like one of those little kids that sits there saying "I'm not falling for that" its hilarious.
     
  8. Os Trigonum

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    you guys let me know when it's time for a meme. :grin:
     
  9. SF3isBack!!

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    Show me the quote where Harden said he quit because we can all see Dwight's on video, lol. I'll wait...
     
  10. SF3isBack!!

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    ^^^^This. Thanks for admitting you were wrong.
     
  11. YOLO

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    like a little kid its hard for you to comprehend directly and indirectly

    "Playing that amount of minutes, you’re going to have some lapses, some mistakes,” Harden told ESPN.com in December. "Who do you know spends 40 minutes at a high level on both ends of the floor nowadays?"

    #1 who in the world says that especially in professional sports.
    #2 tell us what would you call someone that admits they don't play both ends bc they're tired? Someone is willingly admitting they aren't doing something here. I'll wait...
     
  12. Os Trigonum

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    after all, in the words of the legendary Kevin McHale (cough), it's not like James is logging tall timber out there.

    http://www.houstonchronicle.com/sports/rockets/article/Durant-paces-Thunder-s-rout-of-Rockets-5100799.php?t=572a69ea84b37d840b

     
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    Apparently Zach Lowe from ESPN.

    "Harden does everything for a broken Rockets offense. He's derided as some sort of bearded clown, but clowns don't play 82 games and lead the league in minutes -- a ridiculous, unsustainable load that contributed to his drop-off on defense."

    When did Harden say he quit? You're making assumptions about his intentions when he didn't state any. He said it contributed to him making defensive mistakes time to time because he has to expend so much energy on the offensive side of the ball. Why is this so hard to understand? It's just a matter of physics and human biology. A person only has a limited amount of energy to spend on any given night, is there a single player besides Harden who plays the entire second half? How many times did we witness Harden log in 40~45 minutes a game this season? Do you think it's coincidence that Harden defense was much better when he was playing for OKC for much less minutes?
     
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    You want to talk about a quitter? how about this

    Kobe:

    I tried teaching Dwight. I tried showing him. But the reality is that when you have a perception of what it is to win a championship - and most perceptions of what it's like to win are a very outgoing, very gregarious locker room where you pick each other up and you're friends all the time. That's the perception. And I think that's what his perception was of what the idea is. But when he saw the reality of it, it made him uncomfortable. And it's very tough to be able to fight through that, to deal with that challenge. And I don't think he was willing to deal with that uncomfortable and combative nature.

    Nash:

    As the season went on, you could tell it was going to be tough. I think Dwight just didn’t hide the fact that he didn’t like it. You either have to decide and say ‘I’m not going to like it and move on or just eat it and make it work. You could tell he wasn’t committed to moving on. He didn’t like it. He was stuck in ‘I don’t like it mode.’ I’m not putting it on him but you can tell it really bothered him.

    [Howard resisted playing pick-and-roll with a point guard who perfected that play.]

    He wanted to get the ball in the post. Kobe can be a pain in the [butt]. Tough beans. That’s tough beans. Instead of being like, That’s Kobe and moving on and trying to work with it, it bothered him and ruffled his feathers. The ball didn’t move enough for him. When the ball doesn’t move enough, it means he didn’t get the ball enough.

    Isaiah Canaan:

    I let him grab my balls.

    JJ Redick:

    There was a deal on the table right before the season started, right after the lockout ended, for [Dwight Howard] to go to Brooklyn. I can remember being in the shower after practice, one of the first practices of the season, and him saying ‘I love you guys, I’m headed to Brooklyn, trade is going down later tonight.’ And I’m on Twitter, I’m on HoopsHype, you know for 24 hours, like ‘When this is going down?’ And it didn’t go down. And I think for the rest of the season there was an underlying resentment because of that.

    [After calling his ex-Magic teammates "nobodies"] I'm not surprised by it. I would be more surprised when Dwight starts taking responsibility. That would be the most negative thing I can say, but that's the truth.

    Metta World Peace:

    Kobe was furious and he just wanted things to change, and him and Dwight [Howard] at the time wasn't clicking. I think Dwight would take it too personal because Kobe is like very direct and Kobe gives you, like, a chance to show who you are. Not necessarily produce, but just to show who you are. Kobe wants to see you out there on the court, and he wants to see you like an attack dog. A smart attack dog. Show that you have heart. Show you care. He wants to see it right away.

    [On Howard's limitations as an offensive player] That's where I had an issue with Dwight sometimes because he's strong and he can rebound, he can block shots, he can dunk. But his moves are not polished yet. So to want the ball every time ... we're going to give it to you, because the franchise called for that, but he isn't going to score.

    Vince Carter:

    He always talks about how I’m a crybaby. I was like, ‘Yo, you’re the biggest crybaby I know.’ And then later, he’s like, ‘Yo, why’d you say that to me?’

    Rashard Lewis:

    [continuation of the "nobodies" comment]We helped Dwight become the player he was. They built that team to make him the player he was. Not trying to be rude or disrespectful to Dwight, but I think sometimes you have to focus on what's going on now, not what [happens] in the past. Very disappointing.

    We made a good run. Hell, look at those banners hanging in the stands. They don't say Dwight Howard on them.
     
  15. Beardaholic13

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    YOLO u got served......harden playing bad defense doesent equate to him quitting on the team u irrational dingis
    Howard admitted quiting on the team because he didnt get enough post up, when that play is a statistical negative outcome. He is stupid and a mental midget and half the league if not more thinks the same, but you wanna drag harden into a convo he has nothing to do with because you have no base of an argument for dwight.

    From how stupid your posts are i wouldnt be surprised if you are dwight himself....****off houston and this board to dwight you mental midget
     
  16. YOLO

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    interesting how you're trying to call someone else out from doing something when you obviously are doing it yourself. Yeah Dwight said "I quit bc i didn't get enough post up" according to you. Only thing that's stupid is you arguing who quit in a better way.

    btw your personal insults are hilarious as its the only way you can feel good about yourself behind a desk.
     
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  18. Aleron

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    Harden has no place in the whose a bigger quitter argument

    That's Pippen, Mcgrady and Dwight
     
  19. SF3isBack!!

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    I'm still waiting on that quote...
     
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    Pippen has James---"I'm too tired to put effort in on defense" Harden, so he has that.
     

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