Well the thing is Morey is still an Asset guy and Les is still greedy... So basically Harden is the new Lin for Les and he's going to do what ever he can to get as much money out of Harden as he can. So if that means letting him have his say on personnel that he would like, not riding with the team or anything else he wants... What Les and Morey don't see is the separation and the chemistry issues they have caused in the locker room... so you have all these kids and you let one get what ever they want and do what ever they want to do. The blame is not entirely on the kid it's on the parents for enabling and allowing them to do all of this. The personal stuff that guys are posting about Harden and Howard is their own personal Love or Hate for them.. the problem still starts at the top. T_Man
by this do you think this probably has a lot to do with the type of coach they're likely searching for now? One that will probably be more commanding and a bigger voice that will likely catch attention
I'm actually concerned with the search for a new coach... I just hope that Les and Morey are not pulling a Jerry Jones to get in a figure head and not getting a coach and give him the power to do his job. There have been some coaches who have signed else where, so you have to ask yourself what are the Rockets looking for? What control are they allowing and not allowing the coach? T_Man
Iam not using him as a scapegoat for our season....we had probably the worst coach in NBA history . But iam however blaming him and scrutinizing him for being a quitter period. Thats what he did this year and you cant deny it , anyone who watched the games knows this. You can say i love harden blah blah blah....that has nothing to do with what dwight did. Its plain and simple the man quit on this team, fans and city, and now iam ready to the same to him.....BYE BYE
i dont care if you love harden of not. thats not point. in face i couldn't care less who people are fans of. But players need to be held accountable no matter what their status is in this league. he admitted that he takes himself out of the game because he can get frustrated. Harden admits he quits on defense too. Do we hear you blasting him in the same regard, nope.
Speaking for myself, I am not giving Harden a pass when it comes to his deficiencies as a star player. He's being paid star money, which comes with certain expectations and roles. Is Harden living up to all of the money he earns? IMHO, no. But I think he's around 75% of what he should be. He's a top 10 player in this league, and arguably in the top 6. He definitely needs to be held more accountable for his poor shot selection, his lack of leadership, lack of effort and focus on defense, and his ridiculous turnovers. But in terms of passing ability and scoring, he's very good at those things. (When he's playing smart, and determined) Howard, on the other hand, just doesn't live up to anything that he's being paid star money for. That's why he's criticized more harshly, and that's why he gets such a lack of respect from everyone.
Harden quits on D, we've seen it, when hes in foul trouble he basically doesent challenge , its understandable because everything he brings to the table offensively. Without him we are probably the worst offensive team in the league easy. These two things are not the same Dwight quit on the team and iam talking about offense and defense. No rotations, doesent wanna set proper screens, doesent box out looking for the rebounding numbers to go up, and **** like that. If you think Harden playing bad defense and dwight quitting is the same thing then you didnt watch any of the final 15-20 games, and iam sorry if that's the case then your opinion is trash. Another thing...Harden was brought to be the offensive Juggernaut and dwight the defensive, so its hard to critique a guy who is probably a top 3 talent in the game today offensively....and his D post all star break wasnt as bad as ppl here make it to be, but most here just follow the media instead of the team so they dont know better, either way you look at it Dwight Quit on the TEAM and harden didnt y you are comparing the 2 is beyond me.....
why do people keep bringing this up as if harden is known to be in foul trouble because that is 100% false. he doesn't play defense well so this rarely happens. Why does one instance or two all of a sudden become some agenda to push throughout an entire season. Just an extremely poor excuse for a huge fault Quitting is quitting. Are you really trying to defend one person being a bigger quitter than the other? My what a Houston Rockets season has become. Its beyond you because obviously people have an agenda to push and its #itsdwightsfault. Its just never about an entire team is the logic people like you try to push. Trying to rationalize one quitter from another is just ridiculous.
Yeah that's basically what they are doing. Any argument you have against Dwight isn't valid to them because they assume you love Harden. Eventhough I personally admit Harden's not perfect. His defense is horrible and we can all spend all day arguing why that is. One thing we don't have to argue about is whether Dwight is a quitter or not because he told us he is. That would be true no matter how anyone feels about Harden.
When did Harden say he quit on D. I've heard Harden say he's too tired to play D and has to conserve himself. That's only quitting to a biased person. Harden carries this team and he also plays a ridiculous amount of minutes that's not quitting. Dwight Howard however didn't quit because of a physical reason he quit because he was mad about not getting the ball. Those are not the same two things.
On top of his deficiencies he then admits he quits on the team. Then you have a crazy person trying to compare that to saying you're too tired. Something I've been saying for Harden for a year way before he said publicly that he's asked to do too much. Last year I made a thread about resting Harden and everyone acted like I was ridiculous. He led the league in minutes last year and carried the team. You cant keep running a player into the ground.
Does he not play D or is he just bad at it? That's the question. Is he too tired? He plays a lot of minutes and I've never heard him say he quit though. You can surmise all you want about Harden's D. We all know he's not good at that but he never quit on the team something Dwight just admitted to doing and some of you guys are just completely OK with that. It's sad really. It's deflection in every post for you guys. "Let's make it about Harden" it's laughable. Point out that Dwight admitted to quitting and needing to "mature" at age 30 (Which confirms everything people have been saying about him BTW) and all you get from you guys is "But.. But... Harden?". No we are talking about Dwight.
I still don't see why Howard did this "interview". If anything it made me not like him anymore even when I was a supporter of his this season and last. He didn't get the ball so he didn't try. You're 30years old and been in the league 10years and still acting like he got in the league 2 years ago. Its time for him to gtfo of Houston.
thats quitting whether directly or indirectly. that doesn't matter. who in the world admits they're too tired to play defense. thats just pathetic in reality. again you're in the same position as Beardaholic13. You're really trying to defend which is a bigger quitter. So sad
no its actually called holding players accountable to the same standards you seem not to hold others. No matter who they are, not who you ride or die the nuts of. Its just a perfect example.
No, I'm sorry you don't understand what quitting means that's not me nor Beardaholic's fault. The two are not the same no matter insanely bad you want them to be. You don't get to change the definition of words in order to fit an argument, lol. Nice try though.
