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Dwight Howard doesn't get the ball much...

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by OldfanofTmac, Nov 2, 2013.

  1. meh

    meh Contributing Member

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    As long as Dwight doesn't complain and still do the other stuff he's great at, I don't care. The Rockets do pass him the ball in the post a few times. But he's been so unsuccessful that even he should know it's more on him than others.

    However, I will say it's up to the coaches to find ways to get him in better position where he doesn't have to back it in. That's more important than just feeding him the ball 15 feet away and expecting him to score.

    I think as long as the Rockets win, this issue will be put on the back burner. Players don't really pout when the team is great.
     
  2. daoshi

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    Howard is not effective when more than 10 ft away from the basket, and he doesn't have the powerful low base to get the deep position.

    Ideally, he should be just hanging around the basket to get the put backs, that along should get him more than 10pts a game. But we all know that will not happen, he will not be happy with that.

    The best way is to get the ball to him on the move, since he has the quickness to beat his defender to the spots. I'm sure the coaches have been working on this, but it takes a team effort to do that. It's much complicated than people think. Just recall the years when the Rockets tried to feed the ball to Yao, it frustrated the heck out of everyone.
     
  3. Lihao

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    he wants the ball? come out and play some PnR , i'm getting tired of him turning the ball over with the same post move every time.
     
  4. sealclubber1016

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    Dwight's post touches should all come on flashes, or where he seals his man off. The team as a whole needs to get better at recognizing this, Dwight included.

    He can't put the ball on the floor, or shoot, so just feeding him in the post is a very bad idea. Dwight is a proven offensive player, just because he isn't a great traditional post option doesn't mean he doesn't have offensive uses aside from finishing.

    This is one of the many things that will come from experience as a team.
     
  5. Doppleganger

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    He needs to embrace the PnR
     
  6. HtownRocket1

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    Dwight is averaging 18 points per game throughout he's career, these 3 games 15, he's not that off.
    Rebounds 12.9, these 3 games 17.
     
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    I'm going to disagree with most people here and say he deserves and should get more touches. He can be a dominant force in the NBA and him getting less than 10 shots is unacceptable. As a team we do not know how to get him the ball, not only on post ups, but cuts to the basket and when he flashes open.

    He needs to find a rhythm. In Orlando he was a very effective post up player. Limited offensive arsenal, but very effective. They gave him a lot of touches and let him find his rhythm. It's hard to be effective when you only touch the ball a couple of times a quarter.

    We need to learn how to get him the ball in spots where he can be effective.
     
  9. kaitanuva

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    Dwight has been absolutely horrific at post ups so far. He HAS to improve significantly in limiting those turnovers and bricked point blank turnaround baby hooks for him to deserve more touches. Harden and the others are right to occasionally ignore him to find a better option, such as running a PnR, where he's more effective (though this still needs work).
     
  10. Ekiu

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    Exactly, Dwight is so good at sealing off his man early but when he does that either the guards just stare at him and don't i've him the ball quickly, or they are too dumb to use angles and pass to the guy in the corner to feed the post and the worst is when they pass the ball to Dwight's wrong shoulder which is an easy TO cause that is where the defender is.

    Dwight makes the game a lot easier for the rest of the team, they need to make the game easier for Dwight in return. Rockets going no where with these perimeter players dominating the ball.


    I'm sure they'll figure it out im just amazed that professional players don't know how to throw an entry pass... smh
     
  11. Yao4REAL

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    Well, for him to get the ball...he had to demonstrate that's he's reliable and don't turnover the ball. He had to show a streak going...get some mojo going and you will see teammates pass him the ball more.
     
  12. sirbaihu

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    Yeah it seems they miss the open pass to him about 8 times a game. 3 seconds too late. and then the passes they do send are like helium balloons. it'll work itself out over the course of the season.
     
  13. OremLK

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    He's been getting a decent amount of post opportunities, the problem is he's not converting on them very often. He keeps turning the ball over or throwing up bricks.

    We already knew this though. Dwight is not a dominant post player, he's best in the PnR. I'm not upset about him not getting the ball in the post, but I would like to see our guards hit him more often as the roll man going to the basket.
     
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    How could McHale stand Howard's atrocious post game? must be politics.
     
  15. ag3ntgandhi

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    There's so many times when they drive into the lane and he's wide open for an oop or easy bucket and he just doesn't get it.

    He knows it too, you can see how badly he wants it when he knows he's so open. Hopefully that passing comes with time...
     
  16. bloodwings19

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    Dwight was smiling at the end of the game. Eventually, he will have a 30 pt. game, just a matter of time.
     
  17. BaconAndEggs

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    Why does everyone here believe Dwight will improve on his post moves? The guy had been in the league for 9 years. If there was any improvement he would have shown it by now. Same with his free throws. His rebounding and defense are already the best in the game. Just develop some PnR chemistry between him, Harden, Lin, PArsons and Beverely and it'l be good.
     
  18. Easy

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    Touches is not the same as shot attempts. He doesn't have more shots partly because he lost the ball a few times before he could get off a shot, not because his teammates didn't get him the ball.

    Yes, his teammates need to find him in spots where he can be effective. A lot of us believe that those "spots" are actually not spots but motion. Howard is most effective when he is in motion, not in stationing at some "spots."

    He is quicker and more athletic than most big men. But he's smaller than a lot of centers in terms of size and height. Dwight is not Shaq. He can't bulldoze his way to the basket. He's not Hakeem, using magical foot work to confuse his defender. He's not Yao, with tremendous size and shooting touch. He needs to use his strength which is athleticism.
     
  19. DaDakota

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    Why Jeremy no pass ball to Dwight?

    ;)

    DD
     
  20. YaoMing#1

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    The team just needs to get him the ball at the hoop on those pnr and his flashes/cuts to the hoop. He's the only big in the NBA who you can just throw the ball up and he'll get it and finish it. This takes chemistry and time. By game 20 Dwight should be getting no less than 20 points every night in our offense. I'm not worried one bit all the players get along and Dwight chose to play here. I'm pretty sure he's happy that he can have low scoring games and watch others do the scoring harden games 2 parsons game 3 and still win. That's what big 3s do. First game Howard was the man 2nd game harden 3rd parsons. He's getting his touches because he's proven and a real superstar game changer. You keep players like him happy and ultimately you get wins. If we were 0-3 it might be different but were the opposite you can't complain when your winning.

    Dwight knows that the team supports him and he's the face of the franchise but I also think that he knows that harden is the guy that's gonna bring him a championship. He came here to play with this team and fit in to what we were already doing. This team is just to talented to fail. Web your third guy can get you 24 12 and 6 (Lebron numbers)lol. Your in real good shape.
     

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